[Alex_UK]

There you have it

"We did it!"

What a tool. We did what was obviously possible, we're amazing [emoji1751]

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[bennymx]

Classic 650ib video.

 

[Doc_KingArthur]

I want to see the 23 tail on a 20-22

 

[Alex_UK]

Was looking at the Gen4/5 next to each other.
The new tail unit is clearly longer to help BMW inyroduce a smaller license plateholder.

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[omasou]

I know people have different feeling about him but he is a very good presenter.

 

[omasou]

 

[counteru]

seems from images of the left side of bike that in order to install any kind of frame sliders they will have to be offset or cut the panel. Right seems fine but left one. Anyone confirm?

 

[einzelgänger]

A bit confused. He says it appears that the 2023 has the TRQ map applied but still throttle restrictions in lower gears and top HP is no where near 205.

God I hope that motor has been broken in first before that dyno run...

 

[zx10guy]

God I hope that motor has been broken in first before that dyno run...

They did say the motor has 600 miles on it and therefore implying the RPM limiter was lifted at that point.

What I'm keying on is the statement that the 2023 has more stock tune restrictions than the previous years.

 

[Fbto]

seems from images of the left side of bike that in order to install any kind of frame sliders they will have to be offset or cut the panel. Right seems fine but left one. Anyone confirm?

Looks that way. Or they build a brace to go behind the fairings. Not sure if needed as much anymore with the wings? They will hit before the sliders


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[BMW_388]

They did say the motor has 600 miles on it and therefore implying the RPM limiter was lifted at that point.

What I'm keying on is the statement that the 2023 has more stock tune restrictions than the previous years.

The 2023 is more restricted in all gears now.

Its 205HP CRANKSHAFT. Does not mean they have to send it to the USA in that configuration of tune however. Driveline lost of about 12HP means once again I explain, 205-12 = 193HP if that was not restricted by tune. This is now restricted to the Torque Optimization coding. See my dyno runs long ago on TO code ECU.

K67 New 2020 " Torque Optimization " RetroFit...

I had the opportunity to work with a customer wanting to test the new 2020 K67 Stock ECU vs the Torque Optimization ECU ISTA coding RetroFit in the last few days. The Stock ECU was sent to me to clone up a stock ECU and then apply the dealer ISTA retrofit of Torque Optimization as it is called...

www.s1000rrforum.com

 

[omasou]

Looks that way. Or they build a brace to go behind the fairings. Not sure if needed as much anymore with the wings? They will hit before the sliders


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That's the way I look at it. The wings are very expensive frame sliders.

There are two braces on each side, unlike the M1K that has a one piece CF brace. Come on you haven't taken your's apart yet

 

[omasou]

The 2023 is more restricted in all gears now.

Its 205HP CRANKSHAFT. Does not mean they have to send it to the USA in that configuration of tune however. Driveline lost of about 12HP means once again I explain, 205-12 = 193HP if that was not restricted by tune. This is now restricted to the Torque Optimization coding. See my dyno runs long ago on TO code ECU.

K67 New 2020 " Torque Optimization " RetroFit...

I had the opportunity to work with a customer wanting to test the new 2020 K67 Stock ECU vs the Torque Optimization ECU ISTA coding RetroFit in the last few days. The Stock ECU was sent to me to clone up a stock ECU and then apply the dealer ISTA retrofit of Torque Optimization as it is called...

www.s1000rrforum.com

Your post / graphs showed an improvement (fix) in the lower end w/a loss at the top end.

To me his graphs look as if it's the stock tune w/the flat spot + top end TRQ tune loss?

 

[Alex_UK]

There are 2 massive wings which hit the floor first, frame sliders that stick out are pointless.

Engine cases + wings... Crash protection done.

If you still want the actual frame protected the carbon covers plus flush fitting pads like these will sit under the bodywork.

https://www.gbracing.eu/Catalogue/FRAME-PROTECTORS/S1000RR-Frame-Protector-Set-2019-2020

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[zx10guy]

The 2023 is more restricted in all gears now.

Its 205HP CRANKSHAFT. Does not mean they have to send it to the USA in that configuration of tune however. Driveline lost of about 12HP means once again I explain, 205-12 = 193HP if that was not restricted by tune. This is now restricted to the Torque Optimization coding. See my dyno runs long ago on TO code ECU.

K67 New 2020 " Torque Optimization " RetroFit...

I had the opportunity to work with a customer wanting to test the new 2020 K67 Stock ECU vs the Torque Optimization ECU ISTA coding RetroFit in the last few days. The Stock ECU was sent to me to clone up a stock ECU and then apply the dealer ISTA retrofit of Torque Optimization as it is called...

www.s1000rrforum.com

So based on what you're saying, it seems the 2023 bikes are coming from the factory even more worse off than those of us with pre 2023 bikes.

 

[hamma996]

This guy sums it up for me

 

[pablanche]

I want to see the 23 tail on a 20-22

I want to see 22 tail on the 23. Not my liking

 

[omasou]

Updated and longer video showing before and after tuning.

 

[SuperBikeBrandon]

There you have it

I'd pay for 2023 style M fairings for my 22 S1000RR. I don't think 22 M fairing's would fit on the S would they? Love the looks of the new M.

 

[BMW_388]

M1000RR and S1000RR fairings interchange 2020-2023

The M1000 has that support brace in the fairing stay area but would also work on the S1000 if you really wanted that carbon fiber piece to the support the winglets at 100+MPH