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Pulling right ?

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#1 ·
Hello all, potential new owner.

I test rode a s1000rr yesterday (0 miles on it) and noticed while off the handlebars (hands completely off the handlebars) that the bike pulled slightly to the right. I had to lean a bit to the left in order to keep the bike rolling straight.

Has anyone experienced this, is this "normal" for this bike ?

If not, what could be causing this problem ?

Thanks.
 
#3 ·
Mine does the same thing, but only very slightly. Since I'm coming from the 2008 ZX10R where this was a serious problem, I do not care. none of my bikes have actually been 100% straight. I think it has to do with the road surface, my body position, many variables why this this is occuring.
 
#6 ·
No, they don't all do it. Mine tracks real straight on MOST road conditions where the road is not banked or worn.

I'd try the most obvious cause first. The rear wheel isn't properly aligned on both sides. Doesn't take much to turn a bike into a crab walker.
 
#7 ·
This is one of those things were a little is normal and a lot is not. All bikes (and riders for that matter) have some built-in weight asymmetry and all bikes have production tolerances that can cause them to pull slightly to one side or the other.

To make any assessment, you need a perfectly flat/uncrowned road, and no wind.

You used the terms "slightly" and "leaning a bit" so sounds pretty benign.

- Mark
 
#8 · (Edited)
Thanks all. It was benign enough that by leaning my upper body to the left the bike rode straight, severe enough that without my upper body lean the bike would have gone into the next lane.

I rode the same road (same patch of road as much as possible) with my HyperMotard (it runs very straight) today to see if I could replicate the drift. I couldn't except for one very small moment where the bike did seem to pull very little (less than the Bimmer). The road did seem a bit crowned in that area. Maybe that was the problem.
What does it all prove, not much I think. I asked the dealer to have one of the mechanics look at it, try it out to see what they think. I'm also planning on going on another test ride. I'm going to test this out at different points to make sure.

I'm concerned that a slight pull at 40 becomes a major one at 120. That said during my ride I did take it up to 90-100mph and it felt extremely stable.


Thanks again for all your help.
 
#30 ·
Time to revive the thread. I’ve heard everything from wind to road crown to spinning internals (dealership excuse). While there are some forces at work here in almost any of these, I think the point many are minimizing is that anyone who’s complained about this is probably feeling a very noticeable difference to most other bikes they’ve ridden. For example, having ridden several decades, pushing 80k miles total on about 20+ different bikes, I can say I’ve never experienced this kind of pull prior to riding the S1000RR. I checked the rear tire tracking angle first, and found it slightly left, which made sense, so I straightened it. No significant improvement. I decided to track it right by the same margin it was off to the left prior. Some improvement, but again not really noticeable. I checked the clutch cable as in the video. No pressure or tension there. Next up was the front brake line. Nothing. I swapped out the used tire for a new one up front, and it’s SO MUCH BETTER now, but still there. This brings a couple things into play though. The original posts were testing a new bike, and while mine is better now, it’s not gone, so tires are wearing and exacerbating the problem, but aren’t the sole cause. Also, sometimes one can get some weird tension in the forks when tightening the front axle, so I may have alleviated some of that. Hard to say. I’m much happier with the bike now, but I’m not done researching and troubleshooting this issue. There’s much more that affects the geometry, so I’ll be checking steering stabilizer (seals could be looser in one direction than the other, causing small steering input), fork straightness, frame straightness, etc. until I figure out the best answers I can. However, any of these seem too unlikely to be so widespread that it’s such a common thread.
 
#24 ·
Pulling right

flyrider:
sorry didnt understood your comment.
Could you please elaborate.

dont you think that it is a possible cause?

I am having the same issue on my S1RR 2017 on straight lines. on daily commute i feel that i am doing an effort with the left hand to compensate even if it is not a big one but there is still one.
I am talking currently to BMW in order to know if the fix provided in the video is a good one but it makes sense at a first glance.
I made bmw review my bike many times because of this issue with no result after multiple checks and currently opened a case at BMW to ask the question.

br,
 
#25 ·
Sorry just understood that this is a very old thread.
I am a new joiner to this forum because i am very curious about the pulling right issue.
Since it is an old thread, from your experience, is it a known issue?
Is the solution in the video a realistic one?
Please advise.
br,
 
#28 ·
Very well known issue of the K46 15-19

https://www.s1000rrforum.com/forum/gtsearch.php?q=veering

one of the longer posted threads about it

https://www.s1000rrforum.com/forum/bmw-s1000rr-general-discussion/208273-s1krr-veer-right-fix.html

I have 15, 17, 18 K46. all with arrow exhaust. None veer any longer to the right. Its a weight thing about the K46. So, in discussion about the new K67 in development was to move the engine to the left in the frame and give the bike better balance. I have the 2020 K67 also and it is alot better balanced left to right. It tracked straight as an arrow new out of the box.
 
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#26 ·
Hi, motarddebutant

There are many, many threads discussing veering. If you search for veering in the search box you will get numerous results.

Some experienced pulling/veering, others did not. There is no definitive fix for those who feel they have a problem.
 
#27 ·
To what Elk has said I would add this:

BMW shifted the 2020 bike's engine slightly left to deal with this issue...at least if you can believe what you read (these days that's a big ask) that is what they did. So what does this tell you? It's a weight issue...moment of inertia to be more precise.

On my '17 RR, I installed an Akrapovic GP slip-on and lost 7 pounds of weight on the right side. I have no veering/pulling issues. This seems to add credence to the BMW solution of weight shift, since removing weight from the right side is going to have the equivalent effect of shifting some weight to the left.

I think this is a simple issue that got blown way out of proportion (and I admit to having been part of the process). Get rid of some weight on the right side by installing a lightweight slip-on, remove the heavy metal passenger pegs and hang the slip-on with a carbon fiber hanger and you should be happy.

My two (ten?) cents...:)