Only engine mod is removal of stock exhaust and exhaust valve. This is a simple street tune. All it does is restore full power from the factory/EPA limitations and reduce the high engine temperatures. Perform at your own risk. I bear no responsibility for anyone that does their own tuning. As you can see from the images, the bike is very restricted from factory. Suck it, Bren.
My Woolich tune for 2024 S1000RR
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I watched that. The warranty concern is with internal engine items. I've owned some engineering mess of motors from BMW and it's like they're looking for a scapegoat. Hopefully BMW Motorrad isn't as bad as BMW N/A for their cars.
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Okay, more odd questions for those who know.
If I set the RPM Limiter to say 14k and I rev bombed the motor so it bounces off the 14k limit, will the computer now log 14k as an "overrev" event?
If I set the RPM Limiter to say 14k and I rev bombed the motor so it bounces off the 14k limit, will the computer now log 14k as an "overrev" event?
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* UPDATE *
Just wanted to give some THANKS to jasonisdn for helping me to get my Woolich Racing tune up and going. I was able to get the ECU flashed and was able to test it a bit on the chilly ride into work this morning.
I appreciate that people aren't just nobodys on the forum, but they're real people with real interests that extend beyond the forum.
Thank you again! -Sam
Just wanted to give some THANKS to jasonisdn for helping me to get my Woolich Racing tune up and going. I was able to get the ECU flashed and was able to test it a bit on the chilly ride into work this morning.
I appreciate that people aren't just nobodys on the forum, but they're real people with real interests that extend beyond the forum.
Thank you again! -Sam
Not as bad, worst lol
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Oh no!
Seems Woolich is adding more functions. I modified a copy of a base file that I have, and activated the Disable Torque Limiter. Let's see if it kills the ETV limits without causing an error code, and without having to modify the other tables. I am not touching knock parameters, hell no.
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No, it does not eliminate the ETV factory issues in 2nd. So I'm not sure what Woolich is trying to imply or accomplish with it.
P.S.
No, it does not eliminate the ETV factory issues in 2nd. So I'm not sure what Woolich is trying to imply or accomplish with it.
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Hmm. Can we email them or something or open a ticket and ask what that's for?
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I'd also love to see a pop tune that I could limit to like "Race Pro 2" or similar. That would be awesome. Not sure how well pop tune would work though with the catted stock exhaust.
Yeah, I was just hoping it would work and make things a little more simple lol. I'll try to file a ticket this weekend.
Are there any software release notes detailing what the feature does?
I haven't looked yet, gotta get some maintenance items done today on both bikes and then I might look tonight. I was uploading more log files when I noticed that change and was like, can it be as easy as single box now?
I found this email ( https://www.woolichracing.com/Register.aspx ) list you can subscribe to for a notification of updates, so I did. I also filed a ticket asking what the 'Disable Torque Limiter' function is and that I did try it on a stock file and didn't notice any change in the stock ETV behavior.
P.S. I never did receive a verification email, so I could be added to the list for update notices.
P.S. I never did receive a verification email, so I could be added to the list for update notices.
Here is the back and forth.... I give up for now.
Hello,
I noticed a new option/box under Advanced Options I believe. It is called "Disable Torque Limiter". I used one of my stock files and enabled that box, but the 2nd gear ETV limit was still present on my test ride. Can you give me some insight on what the functionality or purpose of that box is and what it should be doing?
26/10/2024 19:29:48
United States of America Filter set Agent to North America Support L1 26/10/2024 19:29:48
Staff posted 27/10/2024 20:54:37
Hi JASON,
There are some differences between supported capabilities for part numbers within the same definition, what part number are you using please?
Closed by Staff with status of Answered 27/10/2024 20:54:39
JASON posted 28/10/2024 15:19:30
This is my part number 9E4D850028-980F850028.
Reopened by JASON 28/10/2024 15:19:32
Staff posted 28/10/2024 18:52:48
Hi JASON,
I believe the 'Disable Torque Limiter' was added recently due to a customer finding that modifications to the 'ETV - Requested Torque' were not able to remove some observed restrictions. I also noted that this is not available for every model so I have asked my colleagues if they have some more info which I will share when I receive.
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Cylinder AFR is used to set up AutoTune, especially if you only tuning by cylinder (ie. not unifying fuel maps). If you only have one AFR sensor then it will always be AFR1 but some models support 2 wideband O2 sensors in which case you might have cylinders 1 and 2 on sensor 1 and 3 and 4 on AFR2.
Are you tuning cylinders individually?
Closed by Staff with status of Answered 28/10/2024 18:52:50
Staff posted 28/10/2024 19:27:28
Hi JASON,
In addition to my last response, the 'Disable Torque Limiter' option was added for usa models that are restricted in first few gears.
My colleague in the UK has some experience with these models, I will assign this ticket to him and see if he can assist.
Reopened by Staff 28/10/2024 19:27:29
JASON posted 28/10/2024 20:12:21
No sir, I am just using the Auto Tune with the single wideband that I purchased for Woolich. I just noticed that it was set like that by default. Should I put AFR 1 on cylinder 2, so it matches the rest of the cylinders?
From: Support - Woolich Racing
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2024 6:52:54 PM
To: JASON
Subject:Re: Updated option for 2024 S1000RR
JASON posted 28/10/2024 20:12:22
Thank you.
From: Support - Woolich Racing
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2024 7:27:30 PM
To: JASON
Subject:Re: Updated option for 2024 S1000RR [#385194]
Staff posted 29/10/2024 07:08:25
Hi Jason, disable Torque Limiters is something added to help with allowing the US bikes to be altered high in the rpm and speed ranges which is different to the 2nd gear limitation.
If go to "Other Maps" then "Gear Based Torque Threshold" you will see 1st and 2nd Gear are limited in that map.
Please let me know if that does not help.
Kind Regards
Rich
UK Support
Closed by Staff with status of Answered 29/10/2024
JASON posted 29/10/2024 07:40:11
Thank you for the information Rich.
Does activating the 'Disable Torque Limiter' perform the task of removing those restrictions higher up in the RPMs automatically or does it open a new table that I haven't noticed yet?
Also I was under the impression that the table 'Other Maps' / 'ETV Limit-Gear' was the limitations per gear for the ETV.
From: Support - Woolich Racing
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2024 7:08:32 AM
To: JASON
Subject: Re: Updated option for 2024 S1000RR [#385194]
Reopened by SYSTEM 29/10/2024 07:40:13
Staff posted 29/10/2024 07:45:53
Hi Jason, the issue is one table does not control all nut as I understand it the new Threshold Map is "Global" so across all modes.
Then you change each mode with the previous maps we had.
"Disable Torque Limiters" means that when you make changes to al lot of other maps even including the newly added knock control maps theory are no longer pulled back as they were before.
These bikes are way over complicated but the main problem in the US is your fuel is poor quality compared to here in Europe so all sorts of things we don't suffer with affect you there.
Regards
Rich
UK Support
Hello,
I noticed a new option/box under Advanced Options I believe. It is called "Disable Torque Limiter". I used one of my stock files and enabled that box, but the 2nd gear ETV limit was still present on my test ride. Can you give me some insight on what the functionality or purpose of that box is and what it should be doing?
26/10/2024 19:29:48
United States of America Filter set Agent to North America Support L1 26/10/2024 19:29:48
Staff posted 27/10/2024 20:54:37
Hi JASON,
There are some differences between supported capabilities for part numbers within the same definition, what part number are you using please?
Closed by Staff with status of Answered 27/10/2024 20:54:39
JASON posted 28/10/2024 15:19:30
This is my part number 9E4D850028-980F850028.
Reopened by JASON 28/10/2024 15:19:32
Staff posted 28/10/2024 18:52:48
Hi JASON,
I believe the 'Disable Torque Limiter' was added recently due to a customer finding that modifications to the 'ETV - Requested Torque' were not able to remove some observed restrictions. I also noted that this is not available for every model so I have asked my colleagues if they have some more info which I will share when I receive.
Cylinder AFR is used to set up AutoTune, especially if you only tuning by cylinder (ie. not unifying fuel maps). If you only have one AFR sensor then it will always be AFR1 but some models support 2 wideband O2 sensors in which case you might have cylinders 1 and 2 on sensor 1 and 3 and 4 on AFR2.
Are you tuning cylinders individually?
Closed by Staff with status of Answered 28/10/2024 18:52:50
Staff posted 28/10/2024 19:27:28
Hi JASON,
In addition to my last response, the 'Disable Torque Limiter' option was added for usa models that are restricted in first few gears.
My colleague in the UK has some experience with these models, I will assign this ticket to him and see if he can assist.
Reopened by Staff 28/10/2024 19:27:29
JASON posted 28/10/2024 20:12:21
No sir, I am just using the Auto Tune with the single wideband that I purchased for Woolich. I just noticed that it was set like that by default. Should I put AFR 1 on cylinder 2, so it matches the rest of the cylinders?
From: Support - Woolich Racing
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2024 6:52:54 PM
To: JASON
Subject:Re: Updated option for 2024 S1000RR
JASON posted 28/10/2024 20:12:22
Thank you.
From: Support - Woolich Racing
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2024 7:27:30 PM
To: JASON
Subject:Re: Updated option for 2024 S1000RR [#385194]
Staff posted 29/10/2024 07:08:25
Hi Jason, disable Torque Limiters is something added to help with allowing the US bikes to be altered high in the rpm and speed ranges which is different to the 2nd gear limitation.
If go to "Other Maps" then "Gear Based Torque Threshold" you will see 1st and 2nd Gear are limited in that map.
Please let me know if that does not help.
Kind Regards
Rich
UK Support
Closed by Staff with status of Answered 29/10/2024
JASON posted 29/10/2024 07:40:11
Thank you for the information Rich.
Does activating the 'Disable Torque Limiter' perform the task of removing those restrictions higher up in the RPMs automatically or does it open a new table that I haven't noticed yet?
Also I was under the impression that the table 'Other Maps' / 'ETV Limit-Gear' was the limitations per gear for the ETV.
From: Support - Woolich Racing
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2024 7:08:32 AM
To: JASON
Subject: Re: Updated option for 2024 S1000RR [#385194]
Reopened by SYSTEM 29/10/2024 07:40:13
Staff posted 29/10/2024 07:45:53
Hi Jason, the issue is one table does not control all nut as I understand it the new Threshold Map is "Global" so across all modes.
Then you change each mode with the previous maps we had.
"Disable Torque Limiters" means that when you make changes to al lot of other maps even including the newly added knock control maps theory are no longer pulled back as they were before.
These bikes are way over complicated but the main problem in the US is your fuel is poor quality compared to here in Europe so all sorts of things we don't suffer with affect you there.
Regards
Rich
UK Support
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According to my research, this "your fuel is poor quality compared to Europe" is based on bad information. EU 95/98 rating is the same as US 91/93 rating.
Nonsense, my liquor's 80 Proof rating is double the European's weak 40% alcohol content!!!
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Curious, which tool is that? Very Interesting!
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