[z00]

You're wrong (Again?). I've had my RR off road, and it's simply awful, evidenced by the video above.

Your video shows clearly you cannot offroad on RR for $hit. I tipped over my bike almost standing still on gravel because I used the front brakes. Moving or not, you simply don't touch the front brakes on slippery/gravel roads, let alone when you're trying to steer away from rocks or bumpy areas.

I did not go offroading on RR intentionally (I had a choice of either crashing or going off the track). I would not go offroading on RR intentionally like you did. That was pretty stupid IMO. At least remove the fairings :serious:

 

[Aaron]

Your video shows clearly you cannot offroad on RR for $hit. I tipped over my bike almost standing still on gravel because I used the front brakes. Moving or not, you simply don't touch the front brakes on slippery/gravel roads, let alone when you're trying to steer away from rocks or bumpy areas.

I did not go offroading on RR intentionally (I had a choice of either crashing or going off the track). I would not go offroading on RR intentionally like you did. That was pretty stupid IMO. At least remove the fairings

You realize my rear brake was on ABS the entire trip down, including that video, and I still could not control speed right?

Maybe it was stupid. But I got to spend a few hours with my Dad, and got to see a part of this country you'll never see.

 

[corkgsxr]

Those who say RR is no good for offroading must not have ridden it offroad. I went off the track more than I can remember on grass or gravel in triple digits. Just don't touch front brakes or panic and you will be fine. Keep an eye on tire PSIs.

I do find it's a few psi makes all the difference between mashing your face into the muck and a happy off road adventure

 

[z00]

You realize my rear brake was on ABS the entire trip down, including that video, and I still could not control speed right?

Maybe it was stupid. But I got to spend a few hours with my Dad, and got to see a part of this country you'll never see.

Rear brake and engine braking would reduce speed. That's what I meant by not touching front brakes.

Well I hope it was worth it. What did you damage that it cost $6k? You were not going that fast, looked like mostly fairings damage, but I know rocks are not easy on the bike. Hopefully you did not damage engine/frame.

I do find it's a few psi makes all the difference between mashing your face into the muck and a happy off road adventure

Yep, I learned the hard way that few PSIs make the difference between crashing or keep shiny side up offroading or not.

 

[sro]

I find it funny we're arguing about how well these bikes do off-road based off a photoshoot.

Accidental runoff from track is different than intentionally going off-road. As such, it's not like one will prepare tire pressure for it.

Get the right tool for the job.

 

[Aaron]

Rear brake and engine braking would reduce speed. That's what I meant by not touching front brakes.

Well I hope it was worth it. What did you damage that it cost $6k? You were not going that fast, looked like mostly fairings damage, but I know rocks are not easy on the bike. Hopefully you did not damage engine/frame.

Rear brake and engine braking don't reduce speed when your rear wheel doesn't have traction. And even if I did have the traction to engine brake, at my speeds engine braking would've accelerated the bike.

It was, of the hundreds of times I've been off road that's the only time I've fallen, and I've gotten to see some pretty amazing parts of this country doing it. Total was around 4k when all was said and done: F brake lever, bar end, mirror, R fairing, nose fairing, clutch cover, R brake lever, and R foot peg. Most of those pieces didn't need to be replaced, just scratches, but I chose to replace them all. I'm lucky I was able to keep riding it down, not exactly cell service out there (Hermit Pass, CO).

Some lake it South Dakota (Yes, my RR is a touring bike also):

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[corkgsxr]

I find it funny we're arguing about how well these bikes do off-road based off a photoshoot.

Accidental runoff from track is different than intentionally going off-road. As such, it's not like one will prepare tire pressure for it.

Get the right tool for the job.

I know what you mean. Get the mx helmet and armoured vests. More supportive boots.

Right gear right situation ?

 

[sro]

I know what you mean. Get the mx helmet and armoured vests. More supportive boots.



Right gear right situation ?

Or a GSA....

 

[corkgsxr]

Or a GSA....

You know on firm ground and suspension to minus 7 in rain you'd manage fine.

Don't try a sodden mud field. It's very ropey

 

[Fbto]

The BMW S1000XR adventure bike seems to be basically the same motorcycle with longer suspension travel, so there should be no reason why we can't take the RR off-roading. As long as you put more grippy tires. And maybe some extra crash bars.

Who owns this bike?


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[z00]

It was, of the hundreds of times I've been off road that's the only time I've fallen, and I've gotten to see some pretty amazing parts of this country doing it. Total was around 4k when all was said and done: F brake lever, bar end, mirror, R fairing, nose fairing, clutch cover, R brake lever, and R foot peg. Most of those pieces didn't need to be replaced, just scratches, but I chose to replace them all. I'm lucky I was able to keep riding it down, not exactly cell service out there (Hermit Pass, CO).

That is a beautiful spot!

You did get lucky to be able to ride it back. Glad it all worked out.

Not letting the bike pick up speed is the key. I was staying at a remote house around tail of the dragon last year. The house has a long sloped unpaved driveway. Going uphill was easy, a couple of riders from our riding group crashed going downhill (similar to your crash). After seeing that, 1st gear, I did not touch the throttle nor front brake. lightly modulate rear bake, it worked well.

As long as you did not get hurt that's what matters. Bikes are much cheaper to fix than humans.