I'm glad it wasn't you on the ground. I don't like to hear about anyone crashing, but at least it wasn't a forum member.

This could have been a familiar road for them. It just so happens there was a hazard on the road. I hope this is another good lesson for you.

We are harsh at times because we don't want anything to happen to you. It's like if a friend drinks to much or is addicted to drugs.

 

First rider (with broken ankle) lowsided on his own going wide. His bike's coolant caused the 2nd rider to crash.

Private track lessons skills came in handy, I'm still trying to figure out why the guy behind me crashed and I did not. Only difference I can remember is that I was following a classic apex turn, he did a late apex kind of line which put him right on the coolant spill.

Glad to know some people care 0

Ironic part is that the guys who crashed have way more riding experience on sportsbikes than me. I hope I'm not using all of my luck. Which raises the question: how can a rider's skills and abilities be assessed? How many miles ridden? Number of crashes? Lap times?

Is there ever a time you go riding when someone doesn't crash? Don't take that personal, just wondering as it seems to happen a lot in your area. In 14 years of riding I've been on a ride with one person who crashed, and witnessed one other. I can't imagine seeing that much carnage all the time :serious: Glad to hear it didn't end badly for you and that you could help.

Ok, those roads I ride are the most famous twisties in NorthCali. Actually this is nothing, on average one rider dies each week from what I read on CHP events. Last week I literally saw two riders crash at the same turn. One going uphil, the other downhill.

If videos files were not too big (my actionCam records in HD), I have some messed up stuff captured while riding. I'm vocal about it here so others can learn and not make the same mistakes.

I don't rag on people but with that much bad luck around your area Z00, I think I'd leave my bike parked. Just being afraid I was next. Your posts reminds me of the Final Destination movies!

Sometimes I wonder about that. But I learned to go ride on either the track or off hours where not many people are on the road.

Don't forget I ride on average more than most people, so more likely to run into incidents.

Final destination :grin2:

 

Is there ever a time you go riding when someone doesn't crash? Don't take that personal, just wondering as it seems to happen a lot in your area. In 14 years of riding I've been on a ride with one person who crashed, and witnessed one other. I can't imagine seeing that much carnage all the time :serious: Glad to hear it didn't end badly for you and that you could help.

 

I don't rag on people but with that much bad luck around your area Z00, I think I'd leave my bike parked. Just being afraid I was next. Your posts reminds me of the Final Destination movies!

 

LOL on Final Destination

 

z00,

If by chance you're ever riding in the Chicago area please give me a days notice so I don't go riding that day lol. Just messing with you. Glad to hear luck was on your side.

 

Here we go - this is a much better type of thread I hoped to see from you (not diminishing the other rider's crashes)!

You now had a road hazard and didn't have a close call / near death experience. You were even able to help others avoid a crash.

Well done!

 

Skill/experience is obviously important but it's all relative. Here's what I mean...smart riders have the experience and maturity to never/rarely ride beyond 6-7/10's of their ability on public roads. You see, it's not always about riding beyond your ability that creates unnecessary risk, sometimes it's just riding at the limits of your ability. This leaves you zero margin for error in an unpredictable environment.

As your skill increases, 6-7/10's of your ability begins to represent a slightly more aggressive style.

 

I have what I call "the five horsemen of the apocalypse." These are five things or areas that can kill you. They are the road, the weather, the bike, the drivers, and you. All these areas need to be addressed in order to live. No experience in a car can prepare you for these. To elaborate: the road contains numerous hazards, things that you can run into, over or otherwise hurt you or cause a crash. Like off-camber, broken pavement etc. The second one, the weather, involves rain, snow, visibility, slippery conditions, fog, like that. The third, the bike, can hurt you through some mechanical failure like tires, brakes, chain where a mechanical fault can cause you to crash. The drivers is pretty obvious, but it is only 1/5 of the equation. Expect anything from other vehicles and you won't be surprised. Finally, you the rider. Brain fade, inexperience, stupidity, over confidence. and things like this put you in danger. But again I see it as only part of the equation, you must be aware of the other 4/5s as well. And on top of it all the aim is to have fun, so it is hard to reconcile. When we go out we need to be aware of these dangers all the time, but still enjoy the ride, appreciate nature and also learn as we go. Ride safe. Larry

 

Group Ride

I had a great ride with a large group. Somehow I ended up being the leader (funny I know). I divided the group into fast and slow riders, asked each group to wait at specific spots. Everyone went home safely.

Good mix of bikes: Many RSV4s.

 

I think that z00 has better luck than me.

But anyway, glad y'all didn't drop it.

When my bike spewed oil all over my back tire, it was certainly challenging to keep it up, but I did it. I didn't realize how dangerous it was until I realized my engine had dumped all my oil on my back tire.

Pretty much every riding group I see on the street gets driven by testosterone to ride beyond their limits. On the track, riding groups behave differently. Those riding groups are vastly preferred...

May this thread be a gentle reminder that every corner on the street could have a stalled car, a pool of coolant or oil, gravel or some other hazard in it. Riding fast on the street has risks that should be acknowledged. Even my best friend lost the front on the street today on his beautiful s1Krr, and he has 15 years of track experience. Fortunately he is injury free, and the bike doesn't need much at all. His full compliment of sliders did an incredible job.

 

^ Sorry to hear about your friend and your bike. Glad he is ok.

Today I saw a chopper that lowsided ahead of me on a sharp turn. It did not look good for the rider nor his bike. 15min later there was GXer that crashed. It's crazy that most motorcycle accidents are self-inflicted. This twisty road has so many bike accidents each weekend.

Today I almost lost the rear while going over gravel on a turn. But I was not going fast so it was easy to control the bike. I flagged the spot to riders behind me to skip the bad part of the turn. The more I ride the s1k, the more I respect it and appreciate it. Glad to be home in one piece!

 

^ Sorry to hear about your friend and your bike. Glad he is ok.

Today I saw a chopper that lowsided ahead of me on a sharp turn. It did not look good for the rider nor his bike. 15min later there was GXer that crashed. It's crazy that most motorcycle accidents are self-inflicted. This twisty road
has so many bike accidents each weekend.

Today I almost lost the rear while going over gravel on a turn. But I was not going fast so it was easy to control the bike. I flagged the spot to riders behind me to skip the bad part of the turn. The more I ride the s1k, the more I respect it and appreciate it. Glad to be home in one piece!

Good to know you're out there keeping the roads safe for everyone

 

Sadly, I don't think he is.