[verrucktaxe]

Here's a vid of how I installed mine. I have a special bracket i made, but video would apply to whatever mount is used. Covers BMW wiring pigtail, phone pairing, Sena comms, etc.

 

[ZZZ]

Here's a vid of how I installed mine. I have a special bracket i made, but video would apply to whatever mount is used. Covers BMW wiring pigtail, phone pairing, Sena comms, etc.

I was going to send my old Gen 1 Valentine 1 (non-functional now) in to be exchanged for a new one, but it appears the new Uniden R7 is the best detector out there now. So, while It'll be sad to toss my trusty Olde Gen 1 in the trash, it'll also be good to finally have a new one.

 

[col-s1krr]

A slight digression from the main conversation. I stopped using radar detectors a few years back, mostly because it is my understanding there isn't much you can do with lasers (many departments here use lasers). Meaning, if the alarm detects a laser radar you are already cooked. Is it still the case today?

 

[ZZZ]

A slight digression from the main conversation. I stopped using radar detectors a few years back, mostly because it is my understanding there isn't much you can do with lasers (many departments here use lasers). Meaning, if the alarm detects a laser radar you are already cooked. Is it still the case today?

Many departments still use radar, so, it's good to have one. With radar, there is a lot of "scatter" (reflections, etc.) so the detectors work better and at longer ranges. For laser, it's almost 100% line-of-sight, with very little scatter. So, there is some validity to your point that the detector goes off to tell you that you've been nailed. BUT, sometimes you get some scatter thru the windshield of the car ahead of you, so, to me, since many departments still use radar (almost all here, in fact) and that the laser detector HAS saved me a time or 2 in the past, to me it's just good sense. Also, there are a bunch of speed enforcement vans and poles around, and ALL of them use radar. And I got nabbed by a van many years ago in FTC because I WASN'T running my V1. So, there's that. Considering how expensive tickets are today.... Also, all the laser units are handheld, so the cop has to be sitting there waiting for you with gun in hand. Anything mounted to a patrol vehicle will be radar, and so if a cop is coming down the road behind a hill or behind another vehicle towards you with his unit on (continuously broadcasting), or if he's doing instant-on, you'll pick up the scatter before he can get line-of-sight on you and get you with the radar. You have to understand how they both work to truly get the best use out of a detector.

 

[verrucktaxe]

I was going to send my old Gen 1 Valentine 1 (non-functional now) in to be exchanged for a new one, but it appears the new Uniden R7 is the best detector out there now. So, while It'll be sad to toss my trusty Olde Gen 1 in the trash, it'll also be good to finally have a new one.

never had a uniden, but the 911 came with an escort integrated with phase shifters (laser jammers) 9800 i think is the model, and i've been very impressed with it. However, the V1 has a good app JBV1 that works well, so i've stuck to that.

A slight digression from the main conversation. I stopped using radar detectors a few years back, mostly because it is my understanding there isn't much you can do with lasers (many departments here use lasers). Meaning, if the alarm detects a laser radar you are already cooked. Is it still the case today?

i've heard that as well, but bikes are smaller than cars, which is good. like i said above, the 911 has jammers too if you want to get real fancy, but radar is still really common and saves my a$$ a lot.

Many departments still use radar, so, it's good to have one. With radar, there is a lot of "scatter" (reflections, etc.) so the detectors work better and at longer ranges. For laser, it's almost 100% line-of-sight, with very little scatter. So, there is some validity to your point that the detector goes off to tell you that you've been nailed. BUT, sometimes you get some scatter thru the windshield of the car ahead of you, so, to me, since many departments still use radar (almost all here, in fact) and that the laser detector HAS saved me a time or 2 in the past, to me it's just good sense. Also, there are a bunch of speed enforcement vans and poles around, and ALL of them use radar. And I got nabbed by a van many years ago in FTC because I WASN'T running my V1. So, there's that. Considering how expensive tickets are today.... Also, all the laser units are handheld, so the cop has to be sitting there waiting for you with gun in hand. Anything mounted to a patrol vehicle will be radar, and so if a cop is coming down the road behind a hill or behind another vehicle towards you with his unit on (continuously broadcasting), or if he's doing instant-on, you'll pick up the scatter before he can get line-of-sight on you and get you with the radar. You have to understand how they both work to truly get the best use out of a detector.

agreed.

 

[ZZZ]

never had a uniden, but the 911 came with an escort integrated with phase shifters (laser jammers) 9800 i think is the model, and i've been very impressed with it. However, the V1 has a good app JBV1 that works well, so i've stuck to that.

i've heard that as well, but bikes are smaller than cars, which is good. like i said above, the 911 has jammers too if you want to get real fancy, but radar is still really common and saves my a$$ a lot.

agreed.

Radar jammers are HIGHLY illegal, since RF emissions are regulated by the FCC. Laser jammers, while not regulated like that by the FCC (to my knowledge), I'm not sure about. There was talk about making ANY type of jammer illegal because it was interfering (obstruction) with a LEO doing his job. Best to never get caught!

 

[col-s1krr]

Thanks for the answers.
Have they been able to decrease the number of false positives? Mine was very good at finding grocery stores and convenience stores.
Also, have heard the adaptive cruise control systems as well as blind spot systems in cars will trigger a radar detector. Truth or myth?

 

[ZZZ]

Thanks for the answers.
Have they been able to decrease the number of false positives? Mine was very good at finding grocery stores and convenience stores.
Also, have heard the adaptive cruise control systems as well as blind spot systems in cars will trigger a radar detector. Truth or myth?

All those falses are generally the old K-band. They're good at filtering those out nowadays. Plus, with the counter like the Valentine had and I think like the Uniden I mentioned does, if you go by a shopping mall every day and get 6 door opener signals on the K band, but today you see that PLUS 1 Ka band reading, you know it's a cop. As I mentioned, you have to know how radar and laser work, then how your particular detector works as well. It helps that my dad was a brilliant EE specializing in military-grade radar Engineering.

 

[verrucktaxe]

All those falses are generally the old K-band. They're good at filtering those out nowadays. Plus, with the counter like the Valentine had and I think like the Uniden I mentioned does, if you go by a shopping mall every day and get 6 door opener signals on the K band, but today you see that PLUS 1 Ka band reading, you know it's a cop. As I mentioned, you have to know how radar and laser work, then how your particular detector works as well. It helps that my dad was a brilliant EE specializing in military-grade radar Engineering.

with the app, you can also set the sweep so you won't get annoying audio alert in your helmet unless you're going over 45 or 55mph or whatever. that way it's only on the open road where you really need it.

 

[fzr100098]

I like the Escort Redline 360c - updates (including laser speed trap locations) and updated regularly via w-fi and range is good - also "learns" and filters out more false alarms over time. V2 may have somewhat better range but it more limited in terms of features

Don't have one for the bike, may need to look into that, should be easier with K67?

 

[BMW_388]

I thought if you just wear a tin foil lined helmet it keeps all the radar bouncing every where else but you.

Or, just twist the wrist and disappear. Buck 50 saids the copter cant catch me.

 

[verrucktaxe]

I like the Escort Redline 360c - updates (including laser speed trap locations) and updated regularly via w-fi and range is good - also "learns" and filters out more false alarms over time. V2 may have somewhat better range but it more limited in terms of features

Don't have one for the bike, may need to look into that, should be easier with K67?

i was looking at that too after how much i like the 9800 in my 911. i tried seeing if they'd sell me the components to do an integrated system on the bike, but nobody would talk to me about that. my old v1g1 would get a false laser signal around 8k rpm, which annoyed me to no end, and i considered the 360c, but when the v1g2 came out, i got one for the aprilia that worked well with the app and sena, and just stuck to that on the bmw for consistency.

is the app pretty solid with the 360? one thing with the v1 is some apps need the phone to be left screen-on to work, but the jbv1 allows me to sleep the screen and throw it in my pocket and still work.

i don't know on the k67. i have a 10 w/ 18 electronics, and they both use that $16 pigtail to connect. if the K67 has a 12v source available like my aprilia, it's nice, but you'll still have to splice into it somehow for V1 power. Don't know how the 360c power connection works? assume similar fused raw wires?

I thought if you just wear a tin foil lined helmet it keeps all the radar bouncing every where else but you.

Or, just twist the wrist and disappear. Buck 50 saids the copter cant catch me.

after the last couple years, pretty sure if i tried to run, the cop would radio ahead to suicidal deer to take me out again.

 

[BMW_388]

K67 has SOS connector not used in the USA on top of the radiator.

K67 has a plug like the K46 lap timer plug under the fuel tank cover.

I know the SOS has power and ground, not sure about the plug under the fuel tank cover. I tried to plug in my PZ Racing lap timer and it did not even power on. Then I looked at schematics and LAP_S signal is missing from the cluster to even use that same type of data method that K46 uses to the cluster.

 

[Rede2fly]

I was going to send my old Gen 1 Valentine 1 (non-functional now) in to be exchanged for a new one, but it appears the new Uniden R7 is the best detector out there now. So, while It'll be sad to toss my trusty Olde Gen 1 in the trash, it'll also be good to finally have a new one.

By what measure is the R7 the best? The V1 now has BT link that will send audio to your in-helmet comm system. The V1 shows whether the alert is forward or behind you and also shows mulitiple bogeys. On top of all that, the V1 is upgraded for less than $600 price of the Uniden.

 

[ZZZ]

By what measure is the R7 the best? The V1 now has BT link that will send audio to your in-helmet comm system. The V1 shows whether the alert is forward or behind you and also shows mulitiple bogeys. On top of all that, the V1 is upgraded for less than $600 price of the Uniden.

I bought one of the first V1's and was a huge fan, but in recent tests, the Uniden came out on top, even in range, which was surprising since that was always the V1's strong point. Plus the Uniden now has the boogey counter and arrows too, and has a better display.

 

[Rede2fly]

I find that I only use my V2 on the Moto and having the audio link to my comm system speeds recognition while also allowing me to keep my focus where it belongs. On the other hand, no detector will compensate for an inattentive rider! I was riding UT 14 recently and passed an old white SUV. Turned out be be LE cruising with a plate-reader. Probably an off-duty sheriff. He lit me up and since my pass was 'safe', let me continue once checking my docs.
No detector can save stupid!

 

[verrucktaxe]

def no substitute for paying attn. still gotta watch for chargers, explorers, spotlight on the driver's side, cow catchers, and lightbars in the grill/windows.

 

[ZZZ]

def no substitute for paying attn. still gotta watch for chargers, explorers, spotlight on the driver's side, cow catchers, and lightbars in the grill/windows.

When the first 5.0 Mustwangs started being used as CHP cars back in CA, my buddy just came up on a black one, started to pass it, then saw the big star on the door, finished the pass, then pulled over. The cop came up laughing and asked if he saw the "Highway Patrol" letters across the back deck. Kevin looked at him and said "Do you think I'd have passed you if I'd seen it?" The CHP was cool and gave him a break on the ticket. We were so used to scanning for Crown Vic's, that we had to now view every black Mustwang with suspicion.

 

[ZZZ]

I find that I only use my V2 on the Moto and having the audio link to my comm system speeds recognition while also allowing me to keep my focus where it belongs. On the other hand, no detector will compensate for an inattentive rider! I was riding UT 14 recently and passed an old white SUV. Turned out be be LE cruising with a plate-reader. Probably an off-duty sheriff. He lit me up and since my pass was 'safe', let me continue once checking my docs.
No detector can save stupid!

"Plate reader"? Are they just cruising around with those now? If your pass was safe, he had no reason to pull you over unless you were speeding or something.

 

[verrucktaxe]

When the first 5.0 Mustwangs started being used as CHP cars back in CA, my buddy just came up on a black one, started to pass it, then saw the big star on the door, finished the pass, then pulled over. The cop came up laughing and asked if he saw the "Highway Patrol" letters across the back deck. Kevin looked at him and said "Do you think I'd have passed you if I'd seen it?" The CHP was cool and gave him a break on the ticket. We were so used to scanning for Crown Vic's, that we had to now view every black Mustwang with suspicion.

at 17, my uncle and i drove his brand new '89 stang 5.0 from IA to CO and saw all the NE state patrols driving the same car. plenty of unmarked camaros/stangs around here too. great we pay extra tax $ so they can create sneaky vehicles to fck us.