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weight and function.

track bikes dont need push to start as many use the relocation EWS module hardware. Push to start has an additional wiring harness and it is complicated programming inside the ECU.
 

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weight and function.

track bikes dont need push to start as many use the relocation EWS module hardware. Push to start has an additional wiring harness and it is complicated programming inside the ECU.
Makes sense and similarly M2/M3/M4 should come standard w/manual seats :)

Thought if they really want to reduce weight, real race bikes not street, wouldn't the remove the starter and battery and like karts have an external starter?
 

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No thanks. I know I know. XYZ has keyless ignition and it's been reliable. Something that simple, I'd rather keep old fashioned. A buddy of mine with a brand new KTM Superduke was having all sorts of issues with his keyless ignition on a group ride we went on.
 

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No thanks. I know I know. XYZ has keyless ignition and it's been reliable. Something that simple, I'd rather keep old fashioned. A buddy of mine with a brand new KTM Superduke was having all sorts of issues with his keyless ignition on a group ride we went on.
I have it on my F900XR and it’s nice to keep the key in my pocket. In fact same with the cars. It’ll be strange using a key again.
 

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Makes sense and similarly M2/M3/M4 should come standard w/manual seats :)

Thought if they really want to reduce weight, real race bikes not street, wouldn't the remove the starter and battery and like karts have an external starter?
Many club racer rules have must be self starting.

Even WSBK has the must be self starting rule. These are production based bikes. When you see the teams use a power starter device, it is to keep from running the battery down on the bike. If you notice a rider goes down and he attempts to rejoin the race, he is pushing a button first to try to start the bike, but if that fails, then they attempt to push start it.
 

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I agree, there's so much tech on these new bikes a keyless ignition is just not that important, but I see it becoming a feature on most in a few years. It doesn't need to be a push button, we already have that on the bars, unless that's eliminated, just sensing the key on you. It'll be stuck in a higher priced package as usual, just driving up the level above base even higher.
 

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I once left my keyless ride key in the passenger seat release barrel for an entire day of riding, so lucky it didn't fall out on the highway because I was a very long way from home.
 
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