When you guys go to a new track do you pre-view it with maps or watch videos online? Do you find this helps? Is it better to do that then just show up blind with no idea about the track?
Seems like most people here preview the track with videos and they find it helpful which is cool. I've never really learned that way and I find looking at videos, or playing games doesn't give me enough "reality" and so I prefer to just feel it out when I get there but if it helps give you a sense of direction and location then go for it!I look at track maps and videos for a new track, for sure. I dont study the lines someone takes tho. Unless its a known pro. Trying to memorize someone else's crappy line is a waste of time. My goal is just to know the order of the turns coming up to minimize "oh shits" the first couple of sessions. Being able to make a rough drawing of the track from memory should be easy if you study the track maps, and I find that exercise very helpful.
You posted this just to make me feel really old didn't you? When I was racing, mid 70's to mid 80's, you did it "old school." You walked the track the day before looking for reference points, bumps to avoid etc. and made notes.When you guys go to a new track do you pre-view it with maps or watch videos online? Do you find this helps? Is it better to do that then just show up blind with no idea about the track?
I just raced CMP last weekend. I watched videos of folks around the pace I thought I'd be. It def helped get an idea but is no way giving "enough".......You walked the track the day before looking for reference points, bumps to avoid etc. and made notes. ...
Had to think about this... I have done it before; not for its own sake, but because I simply didn't have one lolWhat kinds of things would you add to a hand drawn track map? How might drawing a map by hand from memory help someone learn a track faster than just looking at a printed out version?
Hahah not at all. All the videos and technology and I still do it "old school" as well :grin2: Just a good topic about what helps people learn tracks and for some, the videos and video games etc all help.You posted this just to make me feel really old didn't you? When I was racing, mid 70's to mid 80's, you did it "old school." You walked the track the day before looking for reference points, bumps to avoid etc. and made notes.
Hahah, yep. I've had to do that too when I didn't have a track map but also as I said, Keith Code himself MADE me do it....and it helped! I think you are right, you are relying on your memory to write down everything you remember about the track including shape of the turn, length of straight etc. My maps always suck first time around but I re-draw them each time I come in and they get better and better each time.Had to think about this... I have done it before; not for its own sake, but because I simply didn't have one lol
Drawing from memory could help you learn it better, faster, because you're forcing yourself to analyze ALL the characteristics of the track.
How long is that straight compared to that one? How sharp is that corner? Are there things I remember seeing that helped me get around the track? (RPs)
And if you have an accurate track map to compare a drawing to, this would be beneficial too. You can see where your differences are. "Man! This corner felt like it was 90* but on the map it's not even close!"
That's a good idea, to draw your own map from memory and fill in as you learn the track!I also add stuff like rumple strips, painted lines, things in the distance I look at to line me up correctly, signs, cones, braking markers, corner stations etc....I find the more things I have then the more specific I can get with my RP's. Then I can use areas on my map that look vague as a starting point for finding more RPs. If you have one corner with lots of things drawn in your map then chances are you feel quite located in that one area. If you have a portion of the track that is less filled in then that is probably where you could focus your time and energy.
What about split times, do any of you look at your split times compared to your track maps and RP's?
It really does work to draw the track from memory. As I said, Keith Code himself made me do it and it helped me qualify for several AMA races at tracks I had NEVER even turned a wheel on before. I qualified for Daytona, Fontana and Road America after only one practice day of riding the track. I totally credit drawing the track and analyzing split times to narrow down reference points etc as what helped me accomplish it.That's a good idea, to draw your own map from memory and fill in as you learn the track!
For $9.00 I purchased TrackAddict app on my iPhone and it shows split information along with accel / decel data.
I plan to use the split and accel / decel data to develop feel for entry corners versus exit corners.
For example, I would say that turn 14 Thunderhill East is a huge entry turn since you are on the brakes past the apex and turn 15 is a huge exit turn since you are on the gas before the apex to get good drive down the front straight.