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Still shady and wrong no matter how you look at it.
For me it's all very clear, nothing shady. A clear question with a clear answer. The answer is: 'No, you can't do it.'

Definitely wrong to do it, but since I had heard about open titles, I wanted to find out.

It would be nice to be able to LEGALLY buy a bike, try it, only for a week or two, and if you don't like it, sell it with out having to spend the time and money of transfer and registration.
 

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Florida Statue 319.22 (3)

In the case of a private or casual sale, except for transfers by a surviving spouse as provided by s. 319.28, no title shall be accepted for transfer unless the name of the person who is selling the vehicle is shown as the owner on the face of the title.
And (5)

It is illegal to transfer title to a motor vehicle when the purchaser's name does not appear on the title. Any buyer or seller who knowingly and willfully violates this subsection with intent to commit fraud commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
Penalty: Up to one year in jail and/or fine of up to $1000.

So whether you are doing it with negligent intent or not, it's still illegal.

Good info. Thanks!
 

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The question is can you do it and get away with it. The answer is yes you can until you get caught.

i'm assuming the op is trying to see if anyone on here got away with it and would like some tips to go around the law.

I've tried to buy a few used bikes around my area and there is so many people that were trying to sell me bikes from previous owners, un register bikes, "its my cousin's bike" my ass. I mean i knew they try to skip on the tax and everything in between. I decided not to buy those bikes who knows what else is in the closet after you take ownership.

Here is what i know, people on craigslist do this all the time. I'm assuming most do not get caught thats why they do it. But its still shady and who knows what dmv or the irs wants to do to you if you slip.
 

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i'm assuming the op is trying to see if anyone on here got away with it and would like some tips to go around the law.
Not at all! On the contrary. I wanted to find out because I want to be on the safe side.

I actually was offered a bike with an open title and that was why I thought about it. I thought it was legal.
 

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Not at all! On the contrary. I wanted to find out because I want to be on the safe side.

I actually was offered a bike with an open title and that was why I thought about it. I thought it was legal.
Sorry, your description looks suspect, i just assume you are seeking advice for said description.
 

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Sorry, your description looks suspect, i just assume you are seeking advice for said description.
The description is fine. I wasn't clear this time.
First I was offered a bike with an open title, which I didn't take. And that made me think I could buy a bike (a different one), leave the title open, use it and then re sell it. And that's why I wanted to find out if it was legal.
 

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Here's some advice to stay legal. Ask the seller if you can meet him at a reputable shop to have a mechanic go over it. If they say no, don't buy it. Don't ride the bike over there, because if anything happens, you will be on the hook for it. Once it has been checked out, take it for a ride with a written contract with witness.
 

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you need a dealer in order to buy and sell vehicles without titling and registering them in between. hence dealer plates.

personally i would probably sell a bike with an open title to help someone out but would never buy one. You have no proof that the seller has the right to sell.

Every bike or car ive ever bought (which is like 20) i have always had 4 or 5 things

sellers id, compare it to title, compare vin on title to vin on bike, issue casheirs check to name on title, draft bill of sale referencing all of the above

if they wont take a cashiers check i walk, if there name isnt on title i walk

if it was easy to do what OP is askign everyone with cash would be in the car flipping business. But title, tags, taxes, and insurance caught into profit to much. you cant avoid these things legally....especially if you plan on riding them.
 

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I have sold a few bikes by signing the title over. I tell the buyer to register and send proof right away. If they don't you can always go down to the county clerk and junk it out. It is in everyone's interests to transfer the title.


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If the guy signed the title to you then there is no way for you to transfer it unless you register it first.

My friend got screwed into paying $600 to a lawyer because some guy what you are asking. He gave away his broken car to someone and signed the title over. The guy who took it never registered or transferred the title, but fixed it and sold the car to someone else.

Nobody ever transferred the title over or registered it. So it was still registered to my friend. Then the new owner drove it with junk plates, got pulled over, and the car was impounded.

My friend had to go to court because he was still the registered owner of the vehicle. He had to pay the impound costs and fines for having his car on the road. It cost him $600 for the lawyer to fight it.

So yeah. If you sell a bike/car, then meet at the title bureau and have it transferred that day. Otherwise, go yourself and get it out of your name.
 
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