The exhaust doesnt sound like a super sports bike. Coming from my zx10r with an after market exhaust it sounds like it should for 190hp bike. The one of the bmw is so quite.
Is there a certain exhaust you would recommend?
Putting on a stock 2022 exhaust isn't going to make it louder or change the sound. I'm not sure if there is any appreciable change with putting on a slip on exhaust while keeping the rest of the stock piping with the cat and resonator. My 2022 came with the factory sports/Akra silencer or in other words an upgraded factory slip on. I installed the Akra optional header on my bike with the factory sports/Akra silencer. The thing to me is stupid loud now. Enough so where I bought the dB killer to insert into the factory slip on and it's still pretty loud.
I think I worded my question wrong. I dont want to put a stock 2022 exhaust on it. I was wanted to see if an aftermarket 2022 exhaust will fit on a 2023
The part numbers on Akra's site for the SS optional headers are the same for either the 2022 or the 2023:
www.s1000rrforum.com
It looks like most of the exhausts will fit the 23 and most of the fender eliminators DO NOT, maybe the NRT, TST said no. I have the same bike as you with Delkevic short cans on it, it's loud, however, BMW's are LOUD! Heard the Akra on a 17 and it sounded pretty good, M4 slip-on, on 16 and it was ok, Arrow on a 22 and it sounded sweet, louder than the Akra. These are all louder than my bike which I'm sure is louder than those Yoshs, you want it to sound like a 200hp bike, take that cat off and be prepared. I went with the AR, which I was told is significantly louder than the Arrow.
I was looking into a akra system. Full system. I assume id need a tune after. Im gonna try to get the bike to the first service (500) without doing anything and then ill probably go with the akra full header system.
Any time the cat goes I would get a tune. The Akra look and sound good, too many people have them for me to consider, wanted to try something different. I'd look at maybe buying it soon, as it looks like the prices might be going up. If your shop is honest, you'd prob save some money on the install if done with the service. First mod you should do is the gauge screen protector, I guess they scratch easy. My dealer gives them out as a gift and installs it, when you buy the bike from them.
I would never run anything without a tune after removing the cat. Do you need a dyno tune? No, a flash with your exhaust setup will get you close enough to let the O2s do the rest, but I would not run the stock map with a full system, just my opinion. As for BMW knowing you're tuned, that is false. BMW does not know when you bike is tuned unless you raised the rev limiter. This is coming straight from a BMW dealer tech.
I've posted a screenshot of my bike running without a tune with the lambda readings off the O2 sensors from GS911. It shows the bike running on the rich side if anything. So no, the bike doesn't need it.
Like I said, it's my opinion just like yours is to not have one, and I wouldn't want my bike running rich either, to each their own. No one should ever do something they don't feel comfortable doing, there's people he can ask for more info.
I've never said a tune isn't a good idea. If you look back at my reply and other posts I've put up on this subject, it's about the narrative being pushed by many that it's required to have a tune when you put on a full system. It is NOT. Akra even says on their website that it's recommended but not required to have a tune.
Maybe it's being pushed because of how expensive these bikes are, this bike is like 15k more than my last new one. I'm just relaying what I've been told by a tech who deals with BMW, not someone who's talking about someone who posted about someone else's bikes issues. Not to mention you can't just deny a warranty because something has been modded, they have to prove that part was directly responsible for the part being warranted failure.
I totally agree that any denial should only be on the affected system the aftermarket "part" affected. The Magnuson Moss Act is clear on this. But in reality, if a manufacturer chooses to deny your warranty and won't budge despite the dealer stepping in, what are people really going to do? Sue? After the time and attorney's fees, you may win....but you may not. The issue with a tune is it affects so many parts of the engine that it's a big risk.
Not really sure, haven't had to fight for any issues before. I would have to imagine BMW doesn't have the time to go through every claim and would leave it up to the dealer for the call. Never dealt with BMW or the dealer before, they have given me nothing to question them on and have been honest up to this point. Some people do not feel comfortable playing around with mods, some people can't afford a repair bill if something happens and are just happy owning something new. Hopefully they are getting more consistent with quality, sounds like the new bike is a step in the right direction, at first glance.
