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So went to the shop today and the service manager said that the person that he initially spoke with wasn't familiar with the puma, but they cleared it up. My clutch is warped and steels are burnted out. Apparently some models the clutch is being starved for oil because of the clutch redesign. So BMW is going to cover the the new clutch pack version and oil regulator to retrofit under the stated puma. hopefully they have the parts soon and then that should be it.
That's more like it. Too bad they didn't do this the first time around.
 

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Pretty much, my bike has June 12 build date.
 

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Is it an on demand fix (meaning I have to ask for it) or they fix it based on VIN number?
You need to ask for it. It is installed from factory on the later production models as stated in the thread. But you need to ask the dealer to fit it and complain that your clutch is very inconsistent.
 

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Mine was manufactured on 10/19 and neutral is a pita to find. I miss it regularly. I have less than 200 miles on it so I am hopeful that it gets better. I am more worried about the harsh downshifting without using the clutch. Up Shift is butter smooth but downshifting feels like im driving a tank!
 

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Mine was manufactured on 10/19 and neutral is a pita to find. I miss it regularly. I have less than 200 miles on it so I am hopeful that it gets better. I am more worried about the harsh downshifting without using the clutch. Up Shift is butter smooth but downshifting feels like im driving a tank!
Are you off the throttle when down shifting? How fast are you riding when this happens?
 

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Mine was manufactured on 10/19 and neutral is a pita to find. I miss it regularly. I have less than 200 miles on it so I am hopeful that it gets better. I am more worried about the harsh downshifting without using the clutch. Up Shift is butter smooth but downshifting feels like im driving a tank!
Downshift assist does not work if the throttle blip exceeds the redline. And until the first service the redline is limited to 9K RPM that is really easy to reach.
 

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Are you off the throttle when down shifting? How fast are you riding when this happens?
yes I am off the throttle when downshifting.. and I am normally only doing between 30 and 60 miles an hour. A few times I pressed down hard enough that I couldn't believe it didn't budge.
 

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So last Thursday, May 7th, I finally got a call from the dealer that they have received the parts for my clutch retrofit. Utter travisty that it took this long. Now waiting to see how long it takes the dealer to get my bike right. Yesterday marks 6 months they had it in total... They officially had it longer than I had the bike in my garage because of "parts backorder". Damn man... This **** sucks.
 

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So last Thursday, May 7th, I finally got a call from the dealer that they have received the parts for my clutch retrofit. Utter travisty that it took this long. Now waiting to see how long it takes the dealer to get my bike right. Yesterday marks 6 months they had it in total... They officially had it longer than I had the bike in my garage because of "parts backorder". Damn man... This **** sucks.
Sucks. Refuse it and get a refund
 

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So last Thursday, May 7th, I finally got a call from the dealer that they have received the parts for my clutch retrofit. Utter travisty that it took this long. Now waiting to see how long it takes the dealer to get my bike right. Yesterday marks 6 months they had it in total... They officially had it longer than I had the bike in my garage because of "parts backorder". Damn man... This **** sucks.
I’m waiting for a new shark fin and throttle side s1000rr logo to come in so they can replace under warranty. When I spoke to my dealer on the phone they said the parts should be in a few days. Offered to get my bike picked up and then delivered back when it’s done. Told them ok but first call me when the parts came in. Then we will arrange pickup. Been a week haven’t heard anything from them and glad I didn’t give my bike back yet


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So I finally got my bike back on May 21st, 6+ months after it went into the shop. So Getting it from the dealer, I let it warm up and instantly notice that there is ZERO play in my clutch lever. This is after the tech says, "Keep an eye on your clutch free play". Eh, no biggie right? The bike is riding great until I come to a stoplight. STILL CAN'T GET INTO NEUTRAL! I WAS SOOOOOOO PISSED. But I said F it, I'm going home. So, the bike sat Friday, Saturday, I put it on stands and put it neutral, and warm it up. And still, can't find neutral after the bike is hot, on stands. I put it in 1st and pull the clutch in, the back wheel is still spinning. I'm like Huh? I cut it off, put it in neutral, start it, the wheel doesn't spin, put it second, clutch in, the wheel still spins. Then I remembered a while back @bennymx said the manual is wrong about the amount of oil that is in the case. So, today, I drain about a quart, quart 1/2 of oil. Start the bike pull the clutch wheel stops in 1st, 2nd, let out the clutch, wheel spins, pull in, wheel stops. And low and behold, I can find neutral way better (My head hurts). So, my bike had WAY TOO much oil in it and that was contributing to the significant clutch drag and inability to find neutral. I don't know if they changed the oil during the clutch replacement, but most likely it was overfilled from the 600-mile service, the bike had 1,090 miles when I got it back. I'm going to give them an earful on Tuesday when they open up. I'm glad I know a little bit about wrenching my own stuff and the info that is put out on this board. Gonna go for a ride and see how it feels at stoplights finding neutral.
 

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^ Were you going by the sight glass? It would have told you the oil level. I never get dealer techs that over/under fills oil. it's like the most basic service. Happens way too common.
 

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^ Were you going by the sight glass? It would have told you the oil level. I never get dealer techs that over/under fills oil. it's like the most basic service. Happens way too common.
It was just a hunch. I never added oil, the first service was done by the dealer. After I let the oil out, finding neutral was almost magical and no clutch drag. You would think this would have been a basic thing. I let out about a quart or so and the sight glass is still full.
 

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Personally I have never put in a specific amount of oil. My method is to fill the sight glass till its almost full then run the bike for 5 mins. Turn it off and let it sit for 5 mins. Then top it up to red circle. Same goes for fork oil. Most of the time there is an air gap so you suck out anything that was too much.
 

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Some bikes it is hard to find neutral below 1000kms. Also the clutch seems inconsistent or sticky prior to 1000kms.

Lubrication of a clutch pack that is not run in can have a increased drag torque which results in neutral being hard to find.

Replacing the clutch is not the fix. The clutch will be worn in in the first 1000kms which will make it easier to find neutral.

EDIT October 2019
Since August production a oil control valve has been fitted into the end of the input shaft to help with clutch separation. This can be retrofitted onto previous bikes prior to August production. A modified clutch pack has been introduced since September production which will replace the old parts. The friction plates have been optimised.
i had the same problem did the clutch recall problem fixed
 

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Ok, here's my review of mine built 29/2 and picked up 2 days ago. Neutral is so good, better than my previous ones and the quick shifter is excellent. So smooth that I couldn't feel any shift shocks, up or down.
 
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