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I was looking to buy an HP4 and wanted to know a few things.

Was 2014 the last producttion year.

Is 23k to much for one that has 950 miles on it, in PERFECT condition.

Whats gains over the 2011, does this have...?

How rare is this ,

and will the h2, h2r smash the hp4.. or the new r1 or ducati?
 

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Yes, 2014 was the last year for the HP4.

You will have to tell us where you are located, but $23k sounds way too much for that bike. How much is a new 2015 in your area?

There's lots of comparisons 2011/2014 if you search, a little bit better in every area. The 2015 is even better.

The HP4 is not rare, they made about 6000 of them over two years.

Not sure what you mean by smash, again look at the new superbike comparisons and then look at the ones from last year with the HP4. The Aprilia does really well, and they claim the new R1 is better.
 

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I was looking to buy an HP4 and wanted to know a few things.

Was 2014 the last producttion year.

Is 23k to much for one that has 950 miles on it, in PERFECT condition.

Whats gains over the 2011, does this have...?

How rare is this ,

and will the h2, h2r smash the hp4.. or the new r1 or ducati?
I have a feeling you're after straight line speed.....

You should buy the H2R...*double thumbs up*
 

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I couldnt sell my 2014 Comp last year for $21,000 so I wouldnt be paying any dealership $23,000 for a 2 year old bike now. You're talking $2,000 less than what the bike cost new....

They probably gave the guy $17K on trade-in. I'd hold off. $23K is a ripoff. But if they find someone willing to pay it, good for them.
 

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awesome thank you for the help. I was wanting to pay 19k for it but the guy stated he wated 23k, I said hes way to high. So he might just keep it. Its not at a dealer. Its owned already. Private sale.....Its on ebay.
 

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I wouldn't pay anything over 19k and nothing smashes anything else in 2015. Find the bike that feels the best in motion and makes you want to fork over that cash. Hell, a zx14r might be the best option. There were a lot of HP4s made but I've only seen one so far in person.
 

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Yes I love racing on long straight aways.... with some turns. I am not a track rat nor will I compete. I just like having the fastest/best bike,. I remember in 2011 nothing could beat mine, and it seems now that a lot of the bikes ae catching up. So I might swap top something else UNLESS BMW steps up their game,,,,, Kinda disappointed these last few years.

The H2 looks seems terrible the front end that is...

SO IDK I wonder if they (BMW) will supercharge theirs. Would be a massive gain done right...

I havent seen specs on this new R1 rumor.... But my fellow Yamaha riders have been talking so it must be true so to speak lolol
 

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The HP4 is a Limited Edition BMW put out over 2 years. The standard HP4/S doesn't have all the carbon fiber, nor forged wheels nor the super expensive HP Gilles Rearsets and levers, whereas the HP4/C does. It was the lightest and fastest bike ever made by BMW and at the time the fastest production motorcycle in the world. They both have the Akrapovic Full Titanium Exhaust.

However with that said yes Kawasaki came out with the H2 which will not outrun the BMW, now the race version the H2R which only 500 were produced has the supercharger. Either model is a dog to ride and harder to steer, most certainly can't keep up with anything on the track because of its sheer weight. Now in a straight line the H2R is a beast but still needs open road to surpass the Beemer. Unless you start from a 60 mph rolling start. Yes I've ridden it and can attest to these statements.

The 2015 S1000RR is basically a production model of everything BMW learned from the HP4 and made ever so slight improvements just without $15,000 worth of add ons. Which we all can attest that once you get started you can't stop, because when you personally feel the bike reflects your style and taste you start with more gear and the track.

I own a 2014 HP4/C with about 800 miles on her and I wouldn't sell mine, even for $23K. I enjoy her that much.

The R1 is no match for the Beemer but the R1M is a fantastic track machine. Not a great or even good everyday driver but a weapon at the track. They hate being in town with traffic, horrible below 4K RPM's, almost stall from a light and have the worst seat ever. It sounds outstanding and has the best electronics but the motor is still not on par with BMW.

Overall I'm fortunate enough to have ridden these bikes and I still chose the BMW. But the only decision that matters is what you like and prefer. So ride them all if you can and make an informed decision on what suites you best.

Hope this helps. Ride safe and good luck.
 
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^^^Agree. Lot of people make this mistake because of the color. Also, many Comp owners swap out levers and rearsets.

H2 isn't supercharged? I don't think this is the case.
 

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The standard has the forged wheels just not blue !
This....

^^^Agree. Lot of people make this mistake because of the color. Also, many Comp owners swap out levers and rearsets.

H2 isn't supercharged? I don't think this is the case.
and This...
 

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My apologies, you are correct both the H2 and the H2R are supercharged. I was thinking ahead to the R1.

They both still suck and ride like ****. And neither one can touch any liter bike at the track or in town. I'm not a fan of either one but do like the ZX-10.

But everything is relative to the pilot.
 

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This should help answer some of your questions about the S 1000RR and the HP4.

 

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I don't disagree with much of your commentary Bullet but it may be fair to point out the 70 pound difference (IIRC) in rider weights in this "battle". Also noteworthy is the use of race fuel. The only modification of note on the H2 here is a flash which essentially eliminates restrictions. The nice thing about the BMW S1000RR Platform is the lack of restrictions from the factory that truly require a flash. For what it's worth, the ZX10 is similarly restricted from the factory and an ECU flash produces huge gains (relatively speaking). Regardless of what one thinks of BrenTune, et al....they are not producing the percentage of horsepower gains you can achieve with a simple $75 flash on the ZX10.

The reason is simple...the S1000RR is truly not restricted like the Kawi bikes are. Maybe this adds to the discussion, maybe not. :nerd:

Last....I was about to pull the trigger on the preorder last December and at the last minute pulled out. I am so glad I did and not because of what the H2 is or isn't. Just simply very pleased with the HP4
 

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I don't disagree with much of your commentary Bullet but it may be fair to point out the 70 pound difference (IIRC) in rider weights in this "battle". Also noteworthy is the use of race fuel. The only modification of note on the H2 here is a flash which essentially eliminates restrictions. The nice thing about the BMW S1000RR Platform is the lack of restrictions from the factory that truly require a flash. For what it's worth, the ZX10 is similarly restricted from the factory and an ECU flash produces huge gains (relatively speaking). Regardless of what one thinks of BrenTune, et al....they are not producing the percentage of horsepower gains you can achieve with a simple $75 flash on the ZX10.

The reason is simple...the S1000RR is truly not restricted like the Kawi bikes are. Maybe this adds to the discussion, maybe not. :nerd:

Last....I was about to pull the trigger on the preorder last December and at the last minute pulled out. I am so glad I did and not because of what the H2 is or isn't. Just simply very pleased with the HP4

While it is true rider weight vs horsepower makes a difference, no one I believe is cowardly enough to use it as an excuse when racing. As there are no excuses in racing. You either won or you didn't.

You are very on point with restrictions, especially comparing BMW to Kawasaki. Ultimately it's the reason why people do it in the first place. To let her breathe and run like a bat outta hell.

I for one am glad you didn't pull the trigger on the H2. As a BMW owner, now on my 4th BMW (2012 Fire Blue, 2013 Racing Red, 2014 Racing Red, 2014 HP4/C) I personally approve and believe in my mind you made the right decision. But then again, that is relative to the pilot. As long as you are happy, that is ultimately all that really matters.
 
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