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post #41 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-15-2016, 10:36 AM Thread Starter
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Prompt delivery and well packaged, the quality and workmanship is almost impossible perfection, you are hard pressed to find a seam in the CF weave. It's like it was vacuumed formed from one sheet! I've always liked BST CF wheels but after seeing these the "patchwork quilt" look of BST quickly pales.

I was having fits with the front wheel fit and it seemed to not fit this bike. I wrote to Mani who called me within 10 mins with first class support. He jumped on the issue instantly calling distributors, Rotobox and even existing customers to do everything imaginable to sort this out fast. We exchanged pics with always fast responses from Mani. It was clear to me that he put new sales aside to focus on after sale service and support. He was on this like, well you know....

In the end it was all on me, I had loaned out my front stand and did not know that it got slightly bent, this skewed my axles making the wheel an impossible fit, even looking too wide. This stand tweak was the last thing to occur to me but after exchanging careful dimensions with Mani I could see that this wheel [I]should [I]fit. After realizing that it must be something other then the wheel I discovered the stand culprit after much head scratching. I hung the front end from the rafters and it went together perfectly with OEM like fit and exact clearances.

Mani took my apology for wasting his time with professional courtesy and a "That's what we do to stand out in the sea of the Internet"

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@Starpower. Looks fantastic. Now we need a ride report!

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The data posted is for both wheels. They are surprisingly light, you know what I mean if you were to ever physically pick one up, its kind of like a mind game, because you don't expect them to be as light as they are before you pick them up.



You do not have to make any modifications. The DTC doesn't work with weight. As the__gooch posted, DTC looks at the data between the front and rear wheel speeds, and does calculations based on that.

As I wait for my S1000RR to arrive, I've been reading the manual and came across this page. If accurate, seems to indicate recalibration would be required:
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As I wait for my S1000RR to arrive, I've been reading the manual and came across this page. If accurate, seems to indicate recalibration would be required:
My read on this is that it only applies to changing the wheel size not its weight. These wheels are the same size as OEM's. I don't think anyone has to do a recalibration when opting for the BMW forged HP wheels that are almost as light.
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As I wait for my S1000RR to arrive, I've been reading the manual and came across this page. If accurate, seems to indicate recalibration would be required:
Size remains the same, the weight is what changes, no re-calibration required.
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@Starpower. Looks fantastic. Now we need a ride report!
Ride is sublime! Not quite as flickable as my previous R6 or D675R but WAAAAYYY better, more like a well sorted 750. The other most notable impact and a real world response to DDC calibration concerns - The suspension is far more compliant in a big way, much ricer ride while well planted to the tarmac. This impressed me before I made my first turn! As expected the lighter wheel and harder drive out gets the front end light easier but it behaves.
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Ride is sublime! Not quite as flickable as my previous R6 or D675R but WAAAAYYY better, more like a well sorted 750. The other most notable impact and a real world response to DDC calibration concerns - The suspension is far more compliant in a big way, much ricer ride while well planted to the tarmac. This impressed me before I made my first turn! As expected the lighter wheel and harder drive out gets the front end light easier but it behaves.
One last question, did you mount and balance your own tires or trust a dealer to do it?

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Size remains the same, the weight is what changes, no re-calibration required.
What is the durability on these wheels? I have heard in other circles that carbon fiber wheels have a shorter life span than forged/cast wheels.
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I have run carbon fiber, magnesium, cast wheels, etc on every generation of the BMW s1000rr and NONE of them will mess with the electronics. Anybody who thinks so please explain. Scientifically how it would? The lighter rear wheel will spin up more easily based on weight. I am currently using an oz forged aluminum wheel as a second wheel to the forged magnesium wheel. I use them both every weekend at the track and they don't mess up the electronics. That idea is absurd


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What is the durability on these wheels? I have heard in other circles that carbon fiber wheels have a shorter life span than forged/cast wheels.
The Rotobox wheels do have a very good reputation, and I would say durability wise it would be almost as good as any alloy wheel. They might not last 50 years sitting on a field, but I would be confident enough to say if you don't physically damage them yourself, they will outlast your bike.

We've all seen those broken BST carbon wheels, but I have yet to see a broken Rotobox wheel. Does this mean BST's aren't good? Not really, BST has been around for a long time, Rotobox is a fairly new company. Rotobox does make hell of a composite wheel.

That being said, I can show you many pictures of broken OZ, Marchesini, OEM, Forged wheels as well. I've personally bent OEM wheel simply running over an apex at a track.

I know a handful of people running Rotobox's on track and never heard anything negative from them either.
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