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post #1 of 61 (permalink) Old 06-20-2019, 03:21 PM Thread Starter
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Few questions on becoming a good track rider

I have a ‘15 S1KRR premium with 3K miles. Just had my first Track Day, loved it and want to dive in the hobby.

My main question: Will the computerized aids of the S1krr Rob me of becoming a “truly” advanced pace rider? Or if I turn the settings down to the minimum will it not matter.

Hopefully this makes sense. Trying to decide between making my bike solely a track bike or selling it and getting a ‘06-12 R6 with Ohlins and a quickshifter. Thanks!

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I have a ‘15 S1KRR premium with 3K miles. Just had my first Track Day, loved it and want to dive in the hobby.

My main question: Will the computerized aids of the S1krr Rob me of becoming a “truly” advanced pace rider? Or if I turn the settings down to the minimum will it not matter.

Hopefully this makes sense. Trying to decide between making my bike solely a track bike or selling it and getting a ‘06-12 R6 with Ohlins and a quickshifter. Thanks!
If, then, I would get a "new" (2017...) R6 which has traction control.
It will save you a lot of money, and it will save your bones.

Electronics will not rob you anything.

Only your natural delusions will rob you:
More throttle will not make you faster. Etc.

I would keep s1k, because you can use (RCK/)DTC settings to down tune the s1k performance, and make it feel like it is an R6.
But you can not up-tune a R6 to make it feel like s1k.
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I have a ‘15 S1KRR premium with 3K miles. Just had my first Track Day, loved it and want to dive in the hobby.

My main question: Will the computerized aids of the S1krr Rob me of becoming a “truly” advanced pace rider? Or if I turn the settings down to the minimum will it not matter.

Hopefully this makes sense. Trying to decide between making my bike solely a track bike or selling it and getting a ‘06-12 R6 with Ohlins and a quickshifter. Thanks!
simple formula:

- keep s1krr

- invest time and moneys into coaching and practice

forget about ohlins until you're able to be 10-20% of fast group.
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forget about ohlins until you're able to be 10-20% of fast group.
It does not matter how fast you are. It is always a good thing to upgrade suspension to track suspension, if you are going to ride majority of your time on track.
Street suspension is for street riding.
Track suspension is for track riding.
Too simple?
(I have been riding track only since 2007 or so...)
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simple formula:

- keep s1krr

- invest time and moneys into coaching and practice

forget about ohlins until you're able to be 10-20% of fast group.
I appreciate the advice. What kind of cost do you see for coaching? Also any recommendations for picking a coach and do they normally do this during open track days?

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My first ever track day I did 2:30 laps. A Year and a half later I do 2:00. The super fast people do 1:50. All you need is seat time on the track. THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET TO GOING FAST.
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It does not matter how fast you are. It is always a good thing to upgrade suspension to track suspension, if you are going to ride majority of your time on track.
Street suspension is for street riding.
Track suspension is for track riding.
Too simple?
(I have been riding track only since 2007 or so...)
Good for you.

BMW S1000RR is not equipped with street suspension.
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Good for you.

BMW S1000RR is not equipped with street suspension.
wtf are you talking about? did the OP say he had track suspension already? i must have missed that. because every bike that is street legal comes from factory with street suspension.
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BMW S1000RR is not equipped with street suspension.
BMW S1000RR is a street bike which has a street suspension.
It is cheaper to manufacture that way.
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My first ever track day I did 2:30 laps. A Year and a half later I do 2:00. The super fast people do 1:50. All you need is seat time on the track. THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET TO GOING FAST.
For sure. I realize it’ll take a couple years and mannny of days there to get quick. just trying to plan ahead, I don’t want to spend 2 years getting “fast” and then upgrade to a bike with traditional suspension to chase that top 20% of the pack and then be struggling because I have “holes” in my ability/feel from riding the electronic suspension for 2 years. I’m sure I am over thinking this as well.

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