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post #1 of 59 (permalink) Old 02-21-2019, 04:11 PM Thread Starter
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Help with backup bike

With delayed RR release, I'm thinking to get a second bike to be backup for street & track this season. My last season was cut 2 months short because R1 needed some maintenance. After much research:

1- 17+ R6: needs auto blipper, flash. Make it track bike, R1 for street, will save me a lot on tires.

2- New KTM 790 Duke with twin engine, full system and map come from KTM, good to go. It won Pikes Peak hill race. Front fork is not adjustable, about only weakness bike has. R1 on track, 790 on street.

Thoughts on either bike? KTM will cost $1k more. With my riding maintenance will be about the same.

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post #2 of 59 (permalink) Old 02-21-2019, 05:18 PM
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Check the name of this forum. Go for a used BMW S1000RR track bike. Lots of good value units up for sale, ride for a year and sell again for more or less the same price. Forget R6, and the 790 is an unknown right now, could be another KTM Katoom (hand grenade).

Maybe you'll get a different answer on the R6 forum!
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Thought about a used RR but their value is gonna sink a good bit once new RR comes out, also I don't trust RR that's older than 17/18 model given issues I had seen.

Already asked on KTM forum; 790 has been in Europe since 18. It got thumbs up from riders and reviewers. I'll be testing it soon.
I rode 17 R6; stock it sucks, with full exhaust, translogic auto blipper, and a flash it's great. But feels like a turd on straights coming from liter bikes.

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Duke 790 will have limited parts and support as it was just launched, and seeing how you ride motorcycles it may not last you long into 2019 season.

If i were going dedicated track bike, i would buy the new R6 seeing how popular the old ones are; they look sweet, have reliability, less tires and fuel, and you could probably resell for a decent value in the fall.
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Thought about a used RR but their value is gonna sink a good bit once new RR comes out, also I don't trust RR that's older than 17/18 model given issues I had seen.
I'm pretty sure there are owners of RR's from before 17/18 model with no bike issues...might even be some on this forum...
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KTM 790 Duke with twin engine, full system and map come from KTM, good to go. It won Pikes Peak hill race.
Only in the middleweight class.

Ducati won once again as the fastest motorcycle with its 2018 Ducati MTS-1260.

A couple of BMW S1000 R's were in the hunt, placing 21 and 23, overall (cars included)

The KTMs are a hoot to ride, but I would go with the KTM 1290 Super Duke R. It is a great for hooning.

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790 was 2 seconds slower than heavy weight (super duke). s1000R were about 8 seconds slower than 790.

I considered super duke R, it's a monster, but the weight and handling turn me off (compared to Tuono's handling). Also it will be over $20k by the time it's modded properly. I would not wanna spend that money on a backup bike.

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790 was 2 seconds slower than heavy weight (super duke). s1000R were about 8 seconds slower than 790.

I considered super duke R, it's a monster, but the weight and handling turn me off (compared to Tuono's handling). Also it will be over $20k by the time it's modded properly. I would not wanna spend that money on a backup bike.
Have you ridden the Tuono and the 1290?

For track days I would definitely pick the Tuono, but for tight twisty stuff and road riding I would definitely take the flickability and torque of the 1290.

I'm not convinced even a fully sorted 790 would give you the same grin as a stock 1290.

At any rate. I vote R6.
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Have you ridden the Tuono and the 1290?

At any rate. I vote R6.
Tuono is amazing, prefer it over 1290. Handles like a sportsbike and can be ordered with track package (full system & map). Its price is reasonable. Main issue is local dealership support, closest one is 3h away. Would love to own a V4 but NC sucks for lack of Italian brands support.

R6 seems like my best option especially it shares same front (forks and brakes) as R1.
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Have you ridden the Tuono and the 1290?

At any rate. I vote R6.
Tuono is amazing, prefer it over 1290. Handles like a sportsbike and can be ordered with track package (full system & map). Its price is reasonable. Main issue is local dealership support, closest one is 3h away. Would love to own a V4 but NC sucks for lack of Italian brands support.

R6 seems like my best option especially it shares same front (forks and brakes) as R1.
I think you'll find a lot of bikes can be ordered with a full system and map... But if you're after a 'road bike' and looking at 790 then sportsbike type handling didn't seem like your priority.

R6 it is.

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