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post #21 of 59 (permalink) Old 02-25-2019, 10:27 AM
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In that case one should learn to be faster than any 1k's in the group.
It is sooooo satisfying, when you pass all the 1k's with a 600 on fastest section of the track.
I highly recommend.
I personally respect and enjoy the hell out of a 600 rider making passes...but it rarely happens on the straights...
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@z00 - one of the problems with brand specific forums like this one, is you tend to get, "group think" where everyone pretty much has the same idea on their brand and pity the fool who dares question or have an opinion contrary to the "group."

Tis a shame really as there are many fine folks here with much insightful knowledge but as a whole, you wont get much beyond "buy a BMW...yadda yadda yadda..!" here.

The same will be said on any Brand specific forum, KTM, Yamaha, Honda, etc...

Best bet is to go somewhere like the WERA forums (not for the weak knee'd as they can chew up and spit out imposters pretty fast) or a general Sport bike forum covering no brand specifically.


That said, I'd go with with the Duke for the Street as in reality today's Sport/Super bikes make poor street bike choices. (Yes that's my opinion and that of the R&D engineers who design them.) I venture as you mature as a rider you will find its nuances more enjoyable on the street vs primarily using the R1 for the street.


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Like Rea said responding to V4R power, skill cannot outride power.

In a given lap a 600 with a skilled rider can be much faster overall than a liter bike, but on the straights it will get gapped, there is too much of a top speed and power difference. So it will depend on the track and if it has many straights or not.


@Motowerx agreed, there are some open minded members on here. Gotta just ignore the biased ones lol.
You're getting wiser not older. Asked on a track forum, it was about 70% for R6, rest for 790. Mainly because most people are not familiar with KTM.

Least favorite option is to just swing it with only the R1 this season, and get RR when it comes out in Q3. I'll test ride the 790 in few weeks and see for myself. Love that KTM provides a full Akra and a map for it. Reduces weight by 14lbs. So wet it will weigh less than 400lbs which is amazing for the power and torque its twin produces.

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Like Rea said responding to V4R power, skill cannot outride power.

In a given lap a 600 with a skilled rider can be much faster overall than a liter bike, but on the straights it will get gapped, there is too much of a top speed and power difference. So it will depend on the track and if it has many straights or not.


@Motowerx agreed, there are some open minded members on here. Gotta just ignore the biased ones lol.
You're getting wiser not older. Asked on a track forum, it was about 70% for R6, rest for 790. Mainly because most people are not familiar with KTM.

Least favorite option is to just swing it with only the R1 this season, and get RR when it comes out in Q3. I'll test ride the 790 in few weeks and see for myself. Love that KTM provides a full Akra and a map for it. Reduces weight by 14lbs. So wet it will weigh less than 400lbs which is amazing for the power and torque its twin produces.
They did just release an adjustable WP suspension for the 790 as well.
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They did just release an adjustable WP suspension for the 790 as well.
Where did you see it that? Is it with 790 R?

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Where did you see it that? Is it with 790 R?
https://www.visordown.com/news/gener...90-adventure-r
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Just admit that you can’t deal with liter bike power no need to make excuses
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I depends on your track preference- do you have more fun on a light bike over a liter? Talking enjoyment not lap times. After a track day on a Ninja 400 I’m seriously considering one for a track bike and keeping the 1skr for street. If you grin more on a lighter bike then a well setup used R6 is hard to beat, super cheap parts and proven tough engine, very plentiful. If the KTM 790 has you eye compare power, weight, suspension, price and reliability of the new Triumph Street Triple or Daytona. Th KTM pales everywhere.
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or Daytona. Th KTM pales everywhere.
Triple is heavy, handles like $hit.

Rode R3, felt like a turd lol. R6 was fun to ride.

Daytona? I thought it was discontinued as a sportsbike.

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Triple is heavy, handles like $hit.

Rode R3, felt like a turd lol. R6 was fun to ride.

Daytona? I thought it was discontinued as a sportsbike.
They're the new engine supplier for Moto2, so I don't think so. The new MY isn't out yet though.
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