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post #11 of 49 (permalink) Old 09-14-2016, 05:11 PM
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Some good stuff to listen to in the car.

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Some good stuff to listen to in the car.

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Ah yes, I've been on that...recommended by a fellow S1k buddy! good stuff!

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Another good one is MotoVudu. Need to get the book and DVD. This helped me a lot with setting your body up for turns and quick transitions.

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Ah yes. KH great coach but per your post you can not discount the basic of good riding by saying that it is the ONLY way to go fast through a turn.

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If you are not on the brakes or on the gas you are wasting time.
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If you are not on the brakes or on the gas you are wasting time.
Agreed. There have been times where I was done braking early and was off idle or on the gas.

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Found some good tips from our own @misti

The Limit: Exploring Front Tire Traction | MotoMom

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See at 18s and one after it.

What causes front to tuck like that? How to prevent it?
Michelin slicks! Bridgestone had a super sticky front and riders were always suffering from rear grip. While Michelin fronts have improved, riders still say they let go without warning so they are somewhat lacking in feel. Their rears provide more grip than than the Bridgestones which exacerbates the problem.
I'm pretty sure in the 2nd crash Pedrosa just locked up the front with a cold tire under braking. That couldn't even be called a tuck. Pedrosa has had trouble getting heat into the tires all season till last Sunday.

With regards to your crash, use real racing rain tires instead of Q3s or just take it easier on a wet track. The first time I even heard the term "front end tuck" was when 16" fronts were all the rage.

I've only lost the front once from getting on the gas to soon and unloading the front. Softest low side I ever had.
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I have a track day next week at the same track where I crashed. I tell ya, that crash bruised my ego. I'm gonna think twice before I start going fast again. I lost confidence in tires. This sucks, I worked hard to get where I'm now. I have to deal with this setback.

Any ideas on how to overcome this mentally? Alcohol and drugs are not good options

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I recommend alcohol!!!
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