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post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old 07-13-2019, 10:41 AM
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Sexy as hell. Why can't BMW design a bike that sexy? That exhaust...wow...like it a lot.

Too bad it's a Ducati...
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The rattle is endemic to the design, like exhaust noise on an internal combustion engine. With both, whether you like the sound of a given example or not.

There are a number of benefits to a dry clutch - which is why MotoGP bikes use them.
I will tell you one Dry clutch application OEM that did not rattle. Suzuki 1985 GSXR 750. Wow what a bike, and the start of my ownership in sportbikes. My friend had the 85 limited edition 750, and I got the 1986 Suzuki GSXR1100 as soon as it hit the showroom floors. I drove to Abilene Texas to buy that thing brand new. I will never forget that day seeing that motorcycle for the first time in person.



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There are a number of benefits to a dry clutch - which is why MotoGP bikes use them.
I'd argue there are more negatives than positives hence no one else using them on a street bike. Same goes for the single sided swing arm. Also using belts over chains. Ducati is more about aesthetics over functionality.
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I will tell you one Dry clutch application OEM that did not rattle. Suzuki 1985 GSXR 750.
Do you know how it was structurally different?

If one makes the tangs wide enough to not rattle, they would not slide and would bind when engaged/disengaged.

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I'd argue there are more negatives than positives hence no one else using them on a street bike.
For street bikes and the average owner, yes. Dry clutches do not put above with abuse and need more regular servicing.

For race bikes they are more efficient (no fluid drag), and are quick and easy to service.

They are also easy and quick to service on a street bike as well, but most owners will not do their own oil change, let alone deal with a clutch - no matter how easy it is.
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Wow....Id sell two kidneys for THAT one.

Ohh, but then Id be dead


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For race bikes they are more efficient (no fluid drag), and are quick and easy to service.

They are also easy and quick to service on a street bike as well, but most owners will not do their own oil change, let alone deal with a clutch - no matter how easy it is.
This. There's also less heat transfer to the engine from the clutch since it doesn't share oil with it.
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There's also less heat transfer to the engine from the clutch since it doesn't share oil with it.
And keeping clutch material out of the oil.

I was unable to find the price for the Panigale V4 25 Anniversario 916.

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