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post #41 of 73 (permalink) Old 08-23-2019, 10:31 AM
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there is no right or wrong, only personal tolerance for risk and safety for yourself and others.
it is wrong to endanger the lives of other road users through reckless exhibition of speed. not my opinion but a universal fact of human decency. to believe otherwise is to be a degenerate who doesn't deserve to live in society.

i'm glad you are not around where i live. i'm sure there are many in thailand who do not appreciate you sh!tting over their roads. maybe just ride off a cliff or into a wall so you can kill yourself like you want, without subjecting innocents
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it is wrong to endanger the lives of other road users through reckless exhibition of speed. not my opinion but a universal fact of human decency. to believe otherwise is to be a degenerate who doesn't deserve to live in society.

i'm glad you are not around where i live. i'm sure there are many in thailand who do not appreciate you sh!tting over their roads. maybe just ride off a cliff or into a wall so you can kill yourself like you want, without subjecting innocents
I'm all for people hauling ass but I hope they exercise discretion about where and when they do it - "my right to swing my fist ends where your nose begins" and all that.
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Others have touched on this, but to try and direct you towards the point of what I said, which was so magnificently missed; this isn't about you or the motorcyclists in that video or whatever fear you think governs my behavior. It's about other people being able to go about their business without the threat of being hit by a motorcycle or body traveling fast enough to end or ruin their lives.
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Sent Motonosity a handheld for review for next week so hopefully he'll have some more content. Put the handheld live for other consumers now.

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Sent Motonosity a handheld for review for next week so hopefully he'll have some more content. Put the handheld live for other consumers now.

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Lol man, you forgot to say Thailand.

Number of you dying there on public roads doing what you said above is astonishing vs. developed countries.
didnt forget to say it, its listed under my avatar

i grew up in various cities across america, and also lived in a handful of other countries (1st world).... i stopped in thailand for a 3 week stay as part of my traveling around the world and fell in love with it, never left, (sold all my stuff back home over the internet) been here just under 7 years now... yes the roads here are like a mad max movie, absolutely nuts and no one follows any sort of traffic laws or common sense... in some ways its horrible... and ill probably die from it.... but in other ways its amazing, i can ride how the **** i want, as fast as i want, every day anytime i feel like it... and for the most part no one is ever going to stop me or hassle me about it unless i get boxed in at a checkpoint.

i cant imagine moving back to a western country and having to always watch my back for flashing lights everywhere i go if i just feel like getting on the throttle a little.
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Do you want to go stupid fast for an entire day without worrying about hurting innocent bystanders? Funny, there is a place that will suit you. It is called the track.
does your insurance cover an accident on the track? mine does not.

also most tracks simple dont have the distance to allow high speed prolonged runs.

track is great if you want to corner... pretty boring if you enjoy going fast.

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Is it OK for an occasional burst of speed down an isolated road provided all is clear... I save any serious speed for when I can see clearly ahead of me.
as do i... i dont have a deathwish, i didnt say i was blasting 150+ in 30 traffic... i wait for clear stretches of road or no/minimal traffic where i can (relatively) safely go WOT... the only place where you can do that for prolonged stretches is public highways.

you guys have seemed to make some gross assumptions... just because i enjoy riding fast on public roads doesnt mean i do it in full on traffic... admittedly ive let loose sometimes when i shouldnt have, but for the most part i prefer to wait for clear open spaces... im certainly not trying to kill myself lol... id prefer the streets were empty.... i have to move around traffic and wait for the open spots.
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it is wrong to endanger the lives of other road users through reckless exhibition of speed. not my opinion but a universal fact of human decency. to believe otherwise is to be a degenerate who doesn't deserve to live in society.
"wrong"... "reckless"... "decency"... both are biased by personal tolerances, not universal... youd be accurate to say that its "selfish" and mildly bordering on sociopath, but there is no universal "right and wrong", only personal feelings of what those might be.

and yeah, id prefer NOT to live in any society lol... but since i cant afford to have my own private country, ive moved to a place where my riding is part of the norm rather than the extreme.
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Others have touched on this, but to try and direct you towards the point of what I said, which was so magnificently missed; this isn't about you or the motorcyclists in that video or whatever fear you think governs my behavior. It's about other people being able to go about their business without the threat of being hit by a motorcycle or body traveling fast enough to end or ruin their lives.
by default its still fear.... the fear of harming others... i didnt say you were afraid to go fast, that would be silly... you can also toss in the fear of crashing, fear of being hurt, fear of damaging your bike, fear of being locked up.... but the primary issue here is the fear of potentially harming others.

and your point was not missed... it's something everyone should already consider when making the choice to ride faster than the posted limit, as im sure everyone in this group has done at one point or another... we each make a choice based upon the current situation, how clear the road is, and what risk we will accept, etc. each time we go fast.

i try to keep mine to what i personally find as an acceptable level of risk... some might be more cautious, and others more extreme.... but its all a sliding scale, you cant judge without being aware of the exact situation at the time... it might very well be a section of road that you yourself might also speed on because it has minimal risk.
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