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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-30-2019, 01:21 PM Thread Starter
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Is it possible to get a 2020 in the US without DDC?

Looking at the BMW website bike builder it does not appear the select package can be unchecked.
I'm interested in getting the bike for track use only.
I really don't want the DDC, but I would like the item in the race package.
Anyone know if it can be ordered that way?

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In Race Mode Pro the DDC should not actively be changing your dampening. You set dampening with the computer, but it's a static setting.
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Looking at the BMW website bike builder it does not appear the select package can be unchecked.
I'm interested in getting the bike for track use only.
I really don't want the DDC, but I would like the item in the race package.
Anyone know if it can be ordered that way?

Thanks,
Mike
If you find yourself having to buy a 20 with the DDC, I can now do DDC delete from the coding, and have the XWORKS code fix for the 2nd and 3rd gear issues.

Riding and loving my 2020 K67 with the custom XWORKS ECU
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Thanks for the responses.

My thinking is I'd be replacing the suspension anyway, so why pay for the DDC.
It's possible I don't have a full understanding of how the DDC and electronic suspension works, and maybe the stock suspension doesn't need upgrading?

Thanks again,
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Thanks for the responses.

My thinking is I'd be replacing the suspension anyway, so why pay for the DDC.
It's possible I don't have a full understanding of how the DDC and electronic suspension works, and maybe the stock suspension doesn't need upgrading?

Thanks again,
Mike
DDC is like anything else. You got to put in the work to understand it, and build it to your feel. The good of the 20 is that the DDC has changed alot in its operation and the feel. So far I only have 50 good laps on the K67 DDC at a track I have over 5000 laps on. I did however work the K46 DDC alot with various oil changes, spring changes, and RCK3 using the Sector DDC feature.

Being a computer guy makes me want to make DDC work and show it can be a top level suspension with some work. M Calibration / M Power Kit being so delayed in release means one less tool to be able to adjust DDC completely right now.

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You can order a bike without DDC. It will depend on how your country has packaged their bikes. The base model comes without DDC. The other 3 models come with DDC. I don't think its a stand alone option.
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You can order a bike without DDC. It will depend on how your country has packaged their bikes. The base model comes without DDC. The other 3 models come with DDC. I don't think its a stand alone option.
Are you sure ? I havent since none DDC bikes since 2014
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You can order a bike without DDC. It will depend on how your country has packaged their bikes. The base model comes without DDC. The other 3 models come with DDC. I don't think its a stand alone option.
Yeah, that's why I asked about in the US.
I'm also curious if there are any issues replacing the suspension on a bike with DDC?

Thanks for the reply Benny.
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Normally the DDC is part of the dymanic package which includes the following DDC, Heated Grips, Cruise Control. In AUS we have 4 specs.

Base model: Only available in Red. Only has a quickshifter.
Sport model: Only available in Red. Riding Mode Pro, Cast wheels, Passenger Kit, Tyre Pressure Monitoring, DDC, Heated Grips, Cruise Control
Race model: Only available in Red. Passenger Kit, Tyre Pressure Monitoring, Riding Mode Pro, M Battery, M Forged Wheels, DDC, Heated Grips, Cruise Control
M sport: Only available in Motorsport colour. Tyre Pressure Monitoring, Riding Mode Pro, M Seat, M Battery, M Carbon Wheels, DDC, Heated Grips, Cruise Control

This is country specific. AG will lock colours and options that cannot be changed like carbon wheels and the motorsport colour are locked to the M sport. Other things can be changed. To get a bike with no DDC in AUS you can only order the Base model which comes with nothing but a quick shifter. If you decide to buy any of the other 3 models then you can always remove the DDC and have someone like BMW_388 remove it from the vehicle order. A dealer cannot do this for you. I believe the RCK has the ability to do it but we do not have the new RCK for the 2020 yet.

@bmwbadboy Dealers will not stock a base bike because no one buys them. Its a waste of time. Most people buy a sport model or the race model which is generally the top model at the time. As we see with the 2020 model pretty much every bike sold is a M sport. Prior to the 2020 we mainly sold the sport model which was fully optioned except for forged wheels. Most customers didn't option forged wheels in AUS. Cost is a factor. Having a base model bike allows a low price to be advertised but when you go to the dealer you find the price is significantly higher because they only stock what they sell and what people want.
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I’m assuming you’re doing this for the track. Based on my experience with the old RR. The best most cost effective way to handle this is order the top line BMW. Before you even put a mile on it, buy a set of Ohlins. Have the dealer do it so it’s fully documented the instal. Set the DDC equipment aside.

When it comes time to sell, have the dealer reinstall the DDC suspense. Sell the Ohlins separately.

If you can do the same with the engine. Salvage and engine off a wrecked bike, Have the dealer do the engine swap, reinstall when you sell.

You will basically sell the next guy a zero time bike.
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