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post #1 of 39 (permalink) Unread 06-20-2019, 02:00 AM Thread Starter
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Post 2020 RR Hard to find neutral/sticky clutch

Some bikes it is hard to find neutral below 1000kms. Also the clutch seems inconsistent or sticky prior to 1000kms.

Lubrication of a clutch pack that is not run in can have a increased drag torque which results in neutral being hard to find.

Replacing the clutch is not the fix. The clutch will be worn in in the first 1000kms which will make it easier to find neutral.

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Since August production a oil control valve has been fitted into the end of the input shaft to help with clutch separation. This can be retrofitted onto previous bikes prior to August production. A modified clutch pack has been introduced since September production which will replace the old parts. The friction plates have been optimised.
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I asked my dealer about this couple of days ago and got this answer: BMW issued a "service bulletin" and stated the clutch will get better the more it is used, there is no other fix for this.

Annoys the hell out of me but just use the lever instead of the quick shifter.
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On my first ride on the 2020, when came to the first stop light, I couldn't get neutral to save my life. Based on experiences with the HP4 and my '15 I quickly adjusted some play out of the clutch lever. It was fine till about 330 miles and another small adjustment made everything right again. I had forgotten to re-tighten the locking wheel. I don't think this is a real issue. Probably only for those that think they don't have to do anything between services.

Is it true clutch free play is now supposed to be measured at the end of the lever?
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I gotta fiddle with finding neutral all the time on my ‘17.....got it in Nov.’18, now has 2200 miles, but only use the clutch to/from 1st gear.

Maybe I’ll try using the clutch more.

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Why the interest in relative difficulty of finding neutral? Serious question. My '17...sometimes I miss neutral when I want it, but it's easy to get there anyway. Just curious...
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If you guys like to find neutral, I recommend the new Honda blade. It has 5 neutrals! Guy Martin can tell you all about it.

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Lets keep this thread about the 2020 model only please.
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Maybe it's a good idea to use the clutch quite a bit during the break-in period instead of relying nearly always on the quickshifter. That way it will bed in a bit better I would think.
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Adjust the cable and the problem goes away.
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Adjust the cable and the problem goes away.
Definitely had to adjust the cable made it a lot better on the clutch side. Doesn't fix the neutral problem. You basically can never get neutral on first try. If I do, 1 out of 10 times, lucky..... I can't fathom doing much town riding with this thing....not that it is made for that in the first place but still. Or get this, iron wrist 😁
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