ANOTHER tyre question

bananaman · 02-26-2011, 10:30 AM

Need to buy a rear soon. Have come up through b/stone 015's 016's now the conti's all of which have been good for me on road/track. I've now reached top inter, low advanced track group. Having read somewhere on here that if you use a road tyre on the track you WILL drop it through inadequate rubber at some stage was wondering which to go for? Tyres are a minefield it seems, makes, models, numbers, working temperature etc etc. Also need tyre input for pillion use as well, obviously for wear as opposed to edge grip !!
( preferably to go with origonal conti front)
Thanks !!

S1000RR ROB · 02-26-2011, 11:27 AM

road rubber is good enough for the track all day long dont let anyone scare u into thinking u need super amazing sticky tyres, unless your a racer ull never get the most from the wacky expensive nearly slick tyres the contis u had would be fine....................................

the conti or metzler tyres the bikes come with are good all round tyres....

tho all that said put the best rubber u can afford on your bike if u can afford to stick power ones on it for the day or supercorse pro sc (i recommend these 2 )..............

if u want the tyre to last forever with a pillion use a deathlop (dunlop) hate em......

makaley0405 · 02-26-2011, 05:15 PM

I've just shoed mine with a set of Mich powers ones, awesome tyre wont go wrong with them!

**chopt** · 02-26-2011, 09:08 PM

Here ya go;
I ran BT016's on the 636 track bike and they performed flawlessly. I installed them on the S1 for the streets with the same results.

fast-forward:
I recently had to replace the rear (BT016) at 4500miles and went with the Dunlop Q2. I got to put 300+ miles on it today and have to say I didn't notice a difference with the switch.

For the one I buy next, it'll come down to which one's on sale at the time I need it.

Stang10189 · 02-26-2011, 09:43 PM

some street tires are ok for track day but if your at the top of inter bottom of advanced i would def start using the better track tires

Darkangel · 02-26-2011, 10:20 PM

K3s or Power Ones are more than good enough for the advanced group. These are excellent tires and if you are out riding these you need to be racing WSBK. Don't be fooled by all the hype and over spenders. I've passed right by guys on the track that have expensive tires and tire warmers I was just running Micheline PP2cts.

**chopt** · 02-26-2011, 10:44 PM

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some street tires are ok for track day but if your at the top of inter bottom of advanced i would def start using the better track tires

NOT,,,,,,,, I'm 4 seconds off of advanced on street tires. Now if ya got money to waste, getcha self some warmers and track DOT's. Until then, take what is suggested.......

bananaman · 02-27-2011, 12:56 PM

Thanks guys !! Settled my mind a bit.........

**1000RR** · 02-27-2011, 05:32 PM

There's an element of getting better (faster) on the track that comes purely from confidence. There's plenty of ways to gain confidence on the track... your tires are one of them. If the street tires breed confidence for you, then I'd say stick w/them. For me, I get the most confidence knowing that my tires don't require me to even think about whether or not they'll hold the next turn that I may over cook. Instead I can concentrate on my technique and not my tires.

On a liter bike, certainly the cost of tires will come into play since you've got quite a bit of power back there that can eat up tires quicker than a 600. I'm running a 600 for the track so I'm not going through as much rubber as the liter boys. Last year I used Race DOTs and can tell you the confidence they inspired certainly attributed to my improvement. This year, I have slicks waiting to go on... why, since I don't race? Goes back to that confidence thing. Plus the profile should aid in turn-in (so it appears)... we'll see. The pair only cost me $30 more than Race DOTs... so why not!

We all "waste" (spend) our money on different things... do what you think will aid you the best in attaining your goals at that track. For me, I don't like to think/worry about my traction in the next turn.

**chopt** · 02-27-2011, 06:22 PM

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There's an element of getting better (faster) on the track that comes purely from confidence. There's plenty of ways to gain confidence on the track... your tires are one of them. If the street tires breed confidence for you, then I'd say stick w/them. For me, I get the most confidence knowing that my tires don't require me to even think about whether or not they'll hold the next turn that I may over cook. Instead I can concentrate on my technique and not my tires.

On a liter bike, certainly the cost of tires will come into play since you've got quite a bit of power back there that can eat up tires quicker than a 600. I'm running a 600 for the track so I'm not going through as much rubber as the liter boys. Last year I used Race DOTs and can tell you the confidence they inspired certainly attributed to my improvement. This year, I have slicks waiting to go on... why, since I don't race? Goes back to that confidence thing. Plus the profile should aid in turn-in (so it appears)... we'll see. The pair only cost me $30 more than Race DOTs... so why not!

We all "waste" (spend) our money on different things... do what you think will aid you the best in attaining your goals at that track. For me, I don't like to think/worry about my traction in the next turn.

Well said, those are all valid and very good points.

Today I got to run another 200+ miles on the Q2's. I noticed when I was agressive on the the throttle it seemed to spin the rear. I don't recall the BT016's doing this, they hooked and lifted the front. Please note I only have 550 or so miles on the Dunlop's, we'll see how they act after another several hundred miles.