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OT: Vinales impressive at Phillip Island

Only about 1/10 second behind #1 (current) time leader, Marquez. Maverick's apparently got game...

Be interesting when the real racing starts, to see if this ability stands up to the pressure, but he showed talent in '16...
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Battle of the young Spaniards.
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What's with Spain producing so many choose racers ? Is there something like a racing boot camp in every city?


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It's the same as the US having so many of the best supercross racers. The sport is huge in Spain and the racing starts from when they're kids. That's why Casey Stoner pretty much moved there when he was a kid as well as the UK. If you want to be at the top you gotta race the top guys when they are kids. Same as when aussie motorcross riders go to the states. It's a another level.
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Vinales goes top, day 2 at Phillip Island...almost 1/2 second over Marquez. Going to be an exciting first race in Qatar in just over a month. See if this trend leads to some serious competition for Marquez this year. Maverick just might re-invigorate the "old man", Rossi, too. Make for a REALLY exciting season...

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It's the same as the US having so many of the best supercross racers. The sport is huge in Spain and the racing starts from when they're kids. That's why Casey Stoner pretty much moved there when he was a kid as well as the UK. If you want to be at the top you gotta race the top guys when they are kids. Same as when aussie motorcross riders go to the states. It's a another level.
Unfortunately we have more motocross racers than road racers in the US and the transition from dirt to road has been difficult and not as fruitful to most. This is why the US has so few road racers, dirt, and trials competitors versus Europeans.

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Vinales goes top, day 2 at Phillip Island...almost 1/2 second over Marquez. Going to be an exciting first race in Qatar in just over a month. See if this trend leads to some serious competition for Marquez this year. Maverick just might re-invigorate the "old man", Rossi, too. Make for a REALLY exciting season...

I believe the only way Rossi will win the Championship is by playing the numbers/points game as opposed to winning every single race. I watched Hitting The Apex last night and certainly VR46's age will be a factor in any type of sport and the young pups are fearless and brash.
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I believe the only way Rossi will win the Championship is by playing the numbers/points game as opposed to winning every single race. I watched Hitting The Apex last night and certainly VR46's age will be a factor in any type of sport and the young pups are fearless and brash.
Good film. Agree, also...but that's how championships are often won, by guile instead of "hanging 10". VR46 may need some slips by Marquez...but you never know...should be a great season, with all the rider/team changes.

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Good film. Agree, also...but that's how championships are often won, by guile instead of "hanging 10". VR46 may need some slips by Marquez...but you never know...should be a great season, with all the rider/team changes.
I agree, but keep in mind they way Marquez won the championship last year was by toning down his riding and actually finishing races, not winning every race - how many DNFs did Rossi have last year - I'm thinking three or four. Yes, mistakes by other riders always help.
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Guys do forget about what the manufacturer's barking orders especially under the Honda camp. Even though Nicky loved being with Honda for the longest time, he hated the politics and constant pressure they placed on him when he moved to MotoGP.

It is the same story with Casey Stoner and Honda. He had a capable machine but the demands they placed on him not only on the PR side but as a competitor.
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I believe the only way Rossi will win the Championship is by playing the numbers/points game as opposed to winning every single race. I watched Hitting The Apex last night and certainly VR46's age will be a factor in any type of sport and the young pups are fearless and brash.
If he has a proper training regimen, age won't be a factor.

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I agree, but keep in mind they way Marquez won the championship last year was by toning down his riding and actually finishing races, not winning every race - how many DNFs did Rossi have last year - I'm thinking three or four. Yes, mistakes by other riders always help.
Rossi had 1 blown engine, and 3 crashes where he lost the front. They weren't rider error. This month's issue of Roadracing World did their usual motogp analysis. Yamaha riders and technicians could not find a decent traction balance. If they loaded the front to get more front end grip, they got too much wheel spin on the rear. If they increased rear load, they suffered catastrophic loss of front grip. Hopefully this year's chassis will provide a solution that allows best use of the Michelin's. If you subscribe to RR World look for Matt Oxley's brilliant analysis in the current issue.
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