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08-30-2010, 09:05 AM
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Riding around in what rev range?
Ok, I feel really silly for asking this but I need to clear my mind.
I feel like Im switching gears a lot so I can stay at lower RPM's all the time and I know this cant be right. My last bike was a Duc and its rev limiter was around 9k. I used to keep it geared so when I was riding around it was between 3.5-4k rpm. That seemed where the bike was most comfortable when cruising and best on gas mileage.
So here I am, Ive never owned a sport bike before. I just got the 600 mile service done and now I have a crapload of revrange more than before. I was quite happy going to the 9k limiter because thats what I was used to. Now I have up to 14k.
Is it bad to leave it in one gear the whole time and cruise at 7,8,9k rpm? Coming from driving a car Im always used to putting it right in 6th gear early so I can get the best gas mileage out of it. Might not be the most fun, but its the most practical. I also know that cruising around in 2nd gear with it whining at 5k is bad for the motor if you do that continuously.
I know this isnt about saving gas and why am I really worried about it. But is keeping it in a lower gear and cruising at that 7-9k range bad for the engine? Or is it happy there since thats only halfway through the rpm band?
Thanks in advance.
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08-30-2010, 09:27 AM
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Riding around in 1st 2nd at that RPM is gonna be a little harsh as you will probably get some throttle bounce and the bike will jump a little. If you're on the highway in higher gear (and smoother roads), you're probably going to be in that range anyway.
Around town, I usually ride about 4500-5000... I dropped a tooth so that I could be in 2nd gear at those RPMs (35-45mph).
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08-30-2010, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by HyperM3
Ok, I feel really silly for asking this but I need to clear my mind.
I feel like Im switching gears a lot so I can stay at lower RPM's all the time and I know this cant be right. My last bike was a Duc and its rev limiter was around 9k. I used to keep it geared so when I was riding around it was between 3.5-4k rpm. That seemed where the bike was most comfortable when cruising and best on gas mileage.
So here I am, Ive never owned a sport bike before. I just got the 600 mile service done and now I have a crapload of revrange more than before. I was quite happy going to the 9k limiter because thats what I was used to. Now I have up to 14k.
Is it bad to leave it in one gear the whole time and cruise at 7,8,9k rpm? Coming from driving a car Im always used to putting it right in 6th gear early so I can get the best gas mileage out of it. Might not be the most fun, but its the most practical. I also know that cruising around in 2nd gear with it whining at 5k is bad for the motor if you do that continuously.
I know this isnt about saving gas and why am I really worried about it. But is keeping it in a lower gear and cruising at that 7-9k range bad for the engine? Or is it happy there since thats only halfway through the rpm band?
Thanks in advance.
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no, bogging the motor is harder on it then say running around at 12k all day. but at 8k your fine
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08-30-2010, 11:13 AM
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no, bogging the bike is harder on it then say running around at 12k all day
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Ok, cool. Thats what I was thinking. The bike just doesnt like to be chugging along at low RPM's. Although on the other hand I thought that keeping it at high RPM's wasnt good for it either.
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08-30-2010, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by HyperM3
Ok, cool. Thats what I was thinking. The bike just doesnt like to be chugging along at low RPM's. Although on the other hand I thought that keeping it at high RPM's wasnt good for it either.
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high rpm's are fine (all the way to redline) you have a rev limiter to stop you from hurting the motor, the motor was designed to spin that fast
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08-30-2010, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AMRRA#12
high rpm's are fine (all the way to redline) you have a rev limiter to stop you from hurting the motor, the motor was designed to spin that fast
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Oh, I get that. Im just talking about cruising around at say 75mph. Is it better to be at 4kRPM or 8kRPM? Which does the bike like better?
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08-30-2010, 11:27 AM
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i would say as long as your not bogging it its fine
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08-30-2010, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by HyperM3
Oh, I get that. Im just talking about cruising around at say 75mph. Is it better to be at 4kRPM or 8kRPM? Which does the bike like better?
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At that speed, I'd generally say I'm in the 6-8K range (normal cruising)... and the motor is just starting to get in it's sweet spot at that point. I'd agree w/#12... no bogging. In your lower, shorter gears... and being around town, 4500-5000 seems good. 4000 and below seems (to me) to be a little low and closer to that bogging area.
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08-30-2010, 06:47 PM
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Most of the time in town I'm in 1st-3rd. Any higher <50 mph and it doesn't have the oomph I like it to have without being rough and not having to down shift.
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08-30-2010, 06:59 PM
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Everything else being equal, an engine that is constantly running 8K RPM in cruise rather than 5K RPM in cruise is going to suffer a little more wear, but it's probably not significant for most people - VERY few of these bikes will probably see anywhere near the mileage where this sort of thing will be a factor. Now, start keeping it near redline all the time and it will start to be a factor - stresses on an engine rise exponentially with RPM.
I do think running around at high RPM all the time when it isn't necessary isn't as comfortable as shifting up and having less noise, vibes, and a smoother throttle response. Unless I'm "on it", I generally cruise between 3.5K and 6K, more or less. You can use very low revs too if you prefer, as long as you don't use a lot of throttle. The engine will let you know if you're lugging it. It's a personal preference tradeoff between shifting vs. just letting it rev. On lots of roads, just leaving it in a single gear often makes you smoother and faster.
Basically, don't lug it and don't scream it all the time - anything in-between is fine.
- Mark
Last edited by markjenn; 08-30-2010 at 07:02 PM.
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