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post #31 of 37 (permalink) Old 11-07-2012, 10:06 PM Thread Starter
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Seriously people, its "heel & toe" not 'heal & toe'
And 'breaks' are spelled "brakes".

If you can't spell you'll never get the hang of clutch-less anything... seriously joking
Don't flatter yourself Piper. Just because you can correct one's spelling doesn't mean you're smart. Language is just means to and end and under the context of this forum and post everyone knows what breaking or heal and toe means.

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Hey everyone. I'm a new rider but understand the concepts of rev matching from my car racing background.

In cars we have this thing called "heal & toe" and i'm comfortable applying this technique to motorcycle. I get on the breaks, press the clutch, blip the throttle slightly as I go to a lower gear and release the clutch. I can do this smoothly without a problem.

My question is more regarding daily riding.
Here is the situation:
4th gear on the highway and I want to go to 3rd for better acceleration.
In a car this is my procedure:
Stay in the throttle but only slightly so that when I press the clutch, the rpm's slowly creep up. Then I go to 3rd and release the clutch at precisely the right moment to "catch" the rpm for the 3rd gear.

In a motorcycle I lack the throttle sensitivity to make this work. Probably because i'm new and the engine is so "revv happy".

The only thing that works for me now is the following:
let off the throttle for a quick millisecond (decelerating)
Push in the clutch, blip the throttle and go to 3rd gear.

The problem I have with the way I do it now is the slight deceleration of closing the throttle completely.

Maybe someone knows what i'm talking about here?
I just blip and dip, I rarely use the clutch at all for down shifts

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I just blip and dip, I rarely use the clutch at all for down shifts
you're not a motogp racer, therefore you dont know anything and your words dont count

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Don't flatter yourself Piper. Just because you can correct one's spelling doesn't mean you're smart. Language is just means to and end and under the context of this forum and post everyone knows what breaking or heal and toe means.

Go join a book club and stop being a brat!
He said he was just joking...but for the record it's means to AN end.

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you're not a motogp racer, therefore you dont know anything and your words dont count
I did not read the whole thread so I take it I must have missed something

Well the best thing about a motorcycle is only the rider can ride it, so if you don't ride yours like I ride mine that's ok

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I did not read the whole thread so I take it I must have missed something

Well the best thing about a motorcycle is only the rider can ride it, so if you don't ride yours like I ride mine that's ok
you certainly did. not a jab at you at all

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I do use the clutch on down shifts , just because it only takes one bad shift to break something .

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