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Cool What did this street rider do wrong to high side (slo mo video w/sound)

Have been disecting high sides in my mind for a while and found this great steet high side with excellent video and sound and was wondering if those more experienced than me could give their input on what the guy did wrong and what he could have done to avoid it? Thanks...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qi2sq94aKA

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Rear tire regained traction, threw him up, but he held onto the bars and it was game over.
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Same reason most high sides occur - too much throttle while at lean, rear steps out, rider chops throttle, rear regains traction and pitches rider off. Pretty much textbook.

You avoid by better throttle control, either the rider or bike electronics. Sometimes you can salvage things by not chopping the throttle, but once the rear develops enough of a slide, Rossi isn't going to be able to save it.

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If you have to ask you shouldnt be riding dude.

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If you have to ask you shouldnt be riding dude.
Not true. Don't think anyone was born w/the inherent knowledge of all the dynamics of riding

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Have been disecting high sides in my mind for a while and found this great steet high side with excellent video and sound and was wondering if those more experienced than me could give their input on what the guy did wrong and what he could have done to avoid it? Thanks...

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As Mark said... same thing that happened to me in that video I posted on your other thread except I managed to keep the rubber side down. Answer to your question = better throttle control is needed.

Note, there could be other factors in this particular case as well having to do with tire type, age, pressure, whether or not it was to temp, etc. But all things created equal, better throttle control was needed.

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If you have to ask you shouldnt be riding dude.
That's not fair man. We are not all born pro riders. In fact, him asking the question because he wants to become a better rider show me he probably should be riding a bike of some sort.

To the OP it was a good question and answered very will further above. Please don't be afraid to ask more questions of the sort. Ther are also some very good books out there that will help you understand the theories of riding better.


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From what I could see

(A) this is a notorious curve on mulholland that crashes a ton of people I believe it's an off camber turn at the end

(B) if your going to ride the least you can do for your own safety is have good equipment... and from that video at the end when they show his tires they look wore out.

(C) im willing to bet what tire he had left was cold

+ they don't sit there all day with "cameras on" because they have a ton a good riders in that area

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I'd say he was bit by trying to show off mad skilz to the assembled audience....

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Lot's of Factors...

Major factoer: He was "trying" to show off to the local crowd and as such, too many inputs prior to turning, revving, standing the bike up, came in with a bad line, body position.

Notice a few other things, his leather top & bottoms seemed to not be zipped together, or maybe they just don't fit him well. The previous corners was a complete and utter failure.

Had he had a bike with traction control it may of been a different story.

He wasn't smooth, riding demands smooth inputs.

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