LASER DETECTOR

[Rafael]

Hi.

Please somebody can tell me which is the best system, i,m always affraid, looking by my mirrors , can,t enjoy my bike,


rafa

[sfoster]

Originally Posted by Rafael

Hi.

Please somebody can tell me which is the best system, i,m always affraid, looking by my mirrors , can,t enjoy my bike,


rafa

If a laser detector goes off, all that does is tell you is you're about to be pulled over. You would need a laser jammer to be effective against police laser. The Blinder M20 is the only one worth buying. Here is the test.

[H-2 CHARLIE]

I do believe the LASER JAMMERS are against the law here in CA. , just ask any cop out there .

[Glock]

Originally Posted by H-2 CHARLIE

I do believe the LASER JAMMERS are against the law here in CA. , just ask any cop out there .

I think they are pretty much illegal everywhere (I think it is a Federal offense), but peeps still use them. Only a problem if you get caught, I suppose, which is why they are designed to be shut off or automatically shut off after the first attempt.

I sure don't have the nerve to use one or explain to a COP what these little sensors are next to the license plate, but I know many on the m5board use them on their cars. The idea is the COP will not get a lock, and will try again and this time the jammer is off, but you are already down to the limit and he is none the wiser. My problem is that A COP is pretty good at judging speed and might become suspect or maybe he is just well informed on laser jammers and what to look for.

[bananaman]

Originally Posted by H-2 CHARLIE

I do believe the LASER JAMMERS are against the law here in CA. , just ask any cop out there .

So is drink driving.............

[sfoster]

According to radar busters.com:

Laser Jammers and Radar Jammers are illegal in the states of Nebraska, Minnesota, Utah, California, Oklahoma, Virginia, Colorado, Illinois and Washington DC.

So, on the East coast, with the exception of Virginia and DC, use early and often.

[Mack]

Originally Posted by sfoster

If a laser detector goes off, all that does is tell you is you're about to be pulled over. You would need a laser jammer to be effective against police laser. The Blinder M20 is the only one worth buying. Here is the test.

Looking at that link, I think the Laser Interceptor is far better than the Blinder M20/M40 series. The L.I. was claimed 96% effective vs. 83% for the Blinder. The L.I. is also user updatable. The unit's designer was from some guy in Croatia (Ivan or Ivar?) and I guess him and one of the cops involved in that Arizona test had some stare down as the cop wasn't impressed at its jamming ability to his gun which was sort of funny.

Here's a more current link of the above: Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR - 2008

The loop-hole is the 'claim' they are used as "Parking Sensors."

The thing even blocked a laser shot off the front of Radar Roy's huge Freightliiner looking camper at point blank range too. There's a video of it on his site.

Here's the Laser Interceptor site: Laser Interceptor Products

In the USA this is their site: Laser Interceptor USA - Laser Jammer - Exclusive Factory Authorized Distributor to The USA and Canada

I'd be curious to see one installed on an S1000RR and the mounting. Also, there is no Jam Code presented to the officer's gun either which is a problem for the Blinder. Firmware is updatable for any new guns and methods too. I know some states aren't concerned with them (Arizona where they are sold out of in the U.S.), but I don't know if they can be shipped out of state to a state where they are banned. Might have to make a trip to AZ to get one, unless you claim "Parking Sensor."

Regarding their illegality, some CHP officers from CA bought them at the test and took them home (going on their own vehicles perhaps?). Illegal in CA yes, but the fine for having one is less than the ticket and only a misdemeanor. If it saves you a few times, you are ahead of the game.

Here's a map. Red states illegal. Green are okay. Nebraska doesn't know.




Some scoff at radar detectors in Virginia where they are illegal too, but newer ones can be hidden (i.e. Escort Redline) from the cop's view and his Spectre that sniffs their oscillators out. One guy did beat his Virginia ticket too for having one (some Ham radio operator). I know my Redline has picked up 4 mile alerts of instant-on Ka band radar in the flatlands in Northern CA. Pretty stunning range and I've been quite happy with it so far.

Of course, you can always just obey the law and never ever speed on the S too.

Mack

[H-2 CHARLIE]

trying one of these in CA. could get your bike impounded a 30 day hold is $1600 then the ticket ? mmmm.... no thanks

[sfoster]

I think Laser Interceptor is being sued for patent infringement by Blinder.

Laser Jammer Tests - Blinder Patent Lawsuit

[Mack]

Originally Posted by sfoster

I think Laser Interceptor is being sued for patent infringement by Blinder.

Laser Jammer Tests - Blinder Patent Lawsuit

Interesting.

I doubt if LI is worried. Their forum's response post is here: Formal Response - Blinder vs LI-USA Patent Infringement Suit

However, I see very different strategies in their operation.

1. The LI uses a far stronger diode-based laser source than the weaker Blinder which uses LEDs as in your TV remote (magnitude of almost 100x). More light is better here. That was the strong selling point of the older diode-based Lidatek units over Blinder too, but they seem to have vanished off the globe of late.

2. The LI is also user updateable against newer gun technologies as they appear. Blinder was not in its original version, just when LI appeared did they switch in their Mx7 models. Ivan (of LI) beat them to that.

3. The LI also shows no Jam-to-Gun where the Blinder will. It's not just Blinder's software codes that they are angry about and think LI has stolen. They are two entirely different birds and one does a far better job. Maybe Blinder wants LI's codes and to figure out how they defeat the lidar gun's error code? An 'E05' error code on some lidar guns will alert the cop he is being jammed, and in an illegal state that may be bad.

Notice on Blinder's site their tests exclude the LI and the data is very old, maybe 2007 era, since Lidatek has been gone for maybe 2 years since they shut down their Washington office and tried to do it out some CA place (Maybe why they stopped since it is illegal there?).

I suspect this is sour grapes on Blinders part as well as a learning mission. Seems very much like Mike Valentine arguing with Escort on the front-or-rear "Arrow" issues on radar detectors, although the newer 9500ix Escorts have incorporated small arrows in their display to point at speed and red light cameras as you get near them and pass them. Escort seems perched to pounce on Valentine when that patent runs out this year (I think?). Probably some super Redline detector is in the making since Valentine has sort of rested of the last decade.

Some other info is in this thread: Just a question.

Aside, I saw where some guy how has made some fiber optic heads that are as small as a pencil eraser to the head-end unit. The claim is they can fit between body panels or inside a grill and feed into the LI computer head and maybe another brand as well. Pretty neat stuff.


Mack