PCV OR BAZZAZZ

[mucleman21]

which one should i get? and why?

[1000RR Bahrain]

I went with Bazzaz ZFi + Autotune, You’ll not be disappointed with it
(it takes operational command of all fuel injectors not just half like the competitors. This is a significant advantage in realizing the perfect tune, resulting in significantly better throttle response and overall engine performance)
also, i got a good offer from HardRacing for both items
My friend from kuwait got good result with it, you can check his channel on youtube where he rapes heavy moded Hayabusas many times 194 RWHP. I'll dyno my bike maybe next month
YouTube - ‪mujahed1969's Channel‬‏

[Ducky]

Originally Posted by 1000RR Bahrain

I went with Bazzaz ZFi + Autotune,

When you say 'Autotune' do you mean Bazzaz's Z-AFM or the Dynojet Autotune (is that actually possible)?

[S1000RR ROB]

power commander all day every day..........

and im interested to know if the fact that the bazzaz uses all the injectors as i herd it cannot do that..............

not calling anyone's bluff but i just herd it dosnt

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by S1000RR ROB

power commander all day every day..........

What is the reason?

[1000RR Bahrain]

Originally Posted by Ducky

When you say 'Autotune' do you mean Bazzaz's Z-AFM or the Dynojet Autotune (is that actually possible)?

Yah i meant Bazzaz's Z-AFM

Originally Posted by S1000RR ROB

power commander all day every day..........

and im interested to know if the fact that the bazzaz uses all the injectors as i herd it cannot do that..............

not calling anyone's bluff but i just herd it dosnt

Yes the Bazzaz works on the 8 injectors.
you can dowload the installation manual to have a better idea of Bazzaz
http://www.bazzaz.net/index.php?opti...d=3&Itemid=211

[R35 GTR]

Originally Posted by S1000RR ROB

power commander all day every day..........

and im interested to know if the fact that the bazzaz uses all the injectors as i herd it cannot do that..............

not calling anyone's bluff but i just herd it dosnt

I have the Bazzaz on my bike and it does control all 8 injectors, installed it myself and know for sure this is true. I prefer power commander but the ignition module still isn't out yet and I got a killer deal on the Bazzaz. Im going to use the Bazzaz until power commander gets off their ass already and makes the ignition module. They finally released it for a few bikes even though it took them 2 years to do so, hopefully it wont be that long for the BMW.

[ronyd]

Wondering if a specific thread ashould be created on PCV vs. Bazzaz, in the Exhaust and Delivery forum. This could be a great way to get pros/cons on both products. Examples like, does bazaaz piggy back on the ECU. If it fails, what happens? Personally, never heard of bazazz in all my years as Harley guy. Mostly dealt with Dynoject power commanders, and the likes, all having pros and cons. All great and proven product technologies. But, now I'm dealing with a superbike. Always interested in another product and how it works, especially setup and software capabilities. For the money, compared to BMWs race kit package, I likey. Although, 'm not one for adding more hardware to the bike. A software only package to tune the ECU is much better I think, only since there are no other component failures to worry about, just mapping.

[DynojetResearch]

You guys need to get whatever you feel comfortable with, dealer is familiar with and can get a good deal on. But just to clarify:

PCV can do everything other units can except we do not have any type of traction control.

250rpm increments vs 500

The PCV can control the upper injectors if needed. 99% of the people out there do not need to nor will they gain from adjusting the uppers. But since we are on this subject the PCV can control upper injectors INDEPENDENTLY of the lowers - This is crucial if you are tuning upper and lowers as there have been reports of raceteams gaining by removing fuel from the lowers and making up for it with the uppers. I personally have not seen this but I am usually only working with stock engines.

Map each cylinder Independently
Map each gear Independently
Trim fuel table based off of 0-5v input (boost, etc)
Trim fuel table based off of temperature input
Auto tune makes changes live - while riding

As far as a fuel controller goes no one out there can do what we can. As far as who makes more power. If you are not going to map each cylinder or each gear then they will all make the same power when properly tuned.

[R35 GTR]

Do you have any ETA on the ignition module? I was told 2 months but was also told the same thing for my 09 GSXR and two years later they finally came out. Whats with the delay? If you had that out there would be no need to debate as PCV would be the choice hands down!