Who's running a Taylormade with no Power Commander/remap?

[nwills]

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Taylormade exhaust for my S1K and wanted to know how necessary a power commander would be?

From what I understand the bike will remap itself without any problems but I'm curious on how well the bike will run without a custom map for this exhaust?

I don't want it running lean or too much pops etc. at lower rpm's.

Would it be a safer bet to just invest right away in a Power commander or anyone have experience running the Taylormade with nothing and have great results with the bike remapping and running smoothly?

[Stang10189]

my friend has full aka w/o PC and it took his bike about 300mile to adjust and doesn't pop and air fuel ratio is OK according to dyno

[rhody]

nwills,

I have an 2011 model with 1000 miles with a Taylormade, no db killer installed, 109 db on the street, she is loud, gutteral and nasty above 7K rpm, rode a neighbors with 8000 miles 2010 model, bone stock. His bike vibrates more, not as much midrange, and wheelies easier (due to softer stock suspension settings) than mine, I have full Ohlins suspension. You have to accelerate pretty hard to get the front wheel off the gound, which is good to have if you are doing track days with the bike. I use no power commander, and so far, no issues, we will see after a track day next week, running lean at high rpms is never good for valves, etc...

My theory about the vibration is that the stock system has two baffle chambers to quench exhaust pulses, whereas the Taylor is a free flow system (very little backpressure), which accounts for the extra vibration. It may be that fact combined the with 8000 miles on the motor that could be causing the extra vibration on the stock bike.

I like the Taylor. The popping you describe will self adjust through the ECU in the first 50 miles or so. I have a speed shifter, and that will pop regardless whether you run a Taylor or stock exhaust. I like the look, weight savings, 15 lbs lighter than stock, I have seen them advertised for as little as 1295 $ I paid 1500$ for mine. Here are some pics of my bike: One of... a work in progress

If riding for any amount of time with a Taylor and no DB killer I would recommend earplugs. Iif you venture into regions above 10 grand on the street be aware that local law enforcement will hear you coming (about 1/4 to 1/2 mile) before they see you. The sound between 10 - 14K rpm's will make the hair on the back of your neck stand. The closest thing I can compare it to is a Formula 1 car under hard acceleration.

My bike has recessed front and as of today rear turn signals, CRG bar end mirrors and the Taylor exhaust, making for one sleek package. I like that look.
Wind buffeting at speed is better with bar end mirrors than stock, less turbulance, and I have a double HB windscreen to help a bit more.

Good luck with your choice. If you like the characteristics I described, then the system is for you. I have been looking for uTube video's for Taylor track video's and so far have found none. Please post any you find.

Rhody...

[IN2VWS]

I am running the Taylormade without any remapping or PCV. No problems so far. I plan to add a PCV soon to correct any lean running.....

The Taylormade haters on here will remind you that there is no performance gain with the Taylormade system, but that doesn't bother me. How fast do you want to go on the street. In reality, how many riders on here can ride the S1000RR to its full potential, and utilise all of the power that it has?

The Taylormade, IMO, is the best looking system available for the S1000RR, and the sound is awesome.

[torquerat]

have had mine for just under a year and 3000 miles it poped at first but after 50 or so miles it is good to go.. the suck part was the install

[nwills]

I was told by some folks at BMW (and I think they're wrong) that the Taylormade exhaust will throw up faults on your dash since the power valves are no longer part of the system? They said this error pops up on the computer when the bike is hooked up but will also show up on the dash and can't be cleared?

Also heard the tolerance for the carbon fibre bodywork is very tight resulting in possible issues with the kickstand, swingarm and possibly the chain.......anyone experience any of the above?

I may be wrong...but it would seem like a safer option to get a power commander and have a custom map for the exhaust to make sure everything is optimal and reduce any risks running lean etc...?

I love the sound and look of this exhaust system but I'm just trying to rule out any possible issues down the road.....but from what I've seen and heard....I'm pretty much sold!....the feedback from you guys is very helpful.

[koolcaymancops-S1krr]

Nwills,
My bike has roughly 800miles on it, I am also running the Taylor made, AWESOME Exhaust for this bike. I coulf care less about power gains or lost< the sound of this thing is by far top ten. I currently do have the PCV but plan on getting it. I do have a slight hesitation at very low revs but i think that is from the inferior fuel we have on island. I was told by the service dept at the dealer that i should use Marine fuel, runs drier. I plan on trying it this weekend to see how it runs.

The clearance tolerance is very tight but it makes the look of the exhaust appear as part of the bike. i have no problems with clearance, the chain will be very very close to the carbon once its installed. the only way i see it rubbing against the chain is if you happen to push against it while riding.

[torquerat]

That is half right.. there is no fault codes on the dash but it does show up with 2 faults when I hook up to my GS-911 (something like exaust 1 and 2 valve malfunction) I was like well DUH!!!! they are no longer there... when i did mine I did leave my 2 servo units in place and wired up. (some where on here some one said you could take thim out with no fault.. i have been just to lazy to rip my bike apart again to see.. The only tight place is right above the chain so as long as you keep your chain in check (not overly loose) there are no problems..

[coady3]

You will have no problems it rubbing on swingarm or chain it fits perfect, i have had it on for 3000kms and no problems, more midrange, lighter bike, sounds awesome.

[rhody]

Originally Posted by IN2VWS

I am running the Taylormade without any remapping or PCV. No problems so far. I plan to add a PCV soon to correct any lean running.....

The Taylormade haters on here will remind you that there is no performance gain with the Taylormade system, but that doesn't bother me.

IN2V,

Thanks for your to the point assessment. This is my seat of the pants impression, after riding a stock bike and then one with a Taylor, the mid range does feel a bit stronger, do you have absolute dyno proof to show I am correct, or that it is an illusion ? I agree with you, I am 100% happy so far, and plan to add a power commander if there is proof that the beast of an engine can run lean at higher revs with the Taylor and stock ECU. I don't want to have to bring her in for warranty work that a few dollars and a common sense fix could prevent.

Rhody...