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03-23-2011, 04:27 AM
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Power Commander V AFR tables
Since most of us have the PCV with Autotune (will install it soon) it is really good to write down what AFR tables and fuel we use.It is really important because the real power and how smooth the bike will be comes with correct AFR tables.
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03-23-2011, 09:09 AM
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Can you expand on your AFR suggestions?
I'm running 3 different AFR tables in one map since I'm now mapped separately for each gear. Running one AFR table for gears 1-3, a slightly different one for gears 4 and 5, and a different one for gear 6. I've only tested it once and the smoothness and acceleration is great... just curious for others opinions on this stuff.
I worked with Dusty over at DynoJet to come up with these tables as well as tap into the speed signal on the bike (so you can have different maps for each gear).
Last edited by 1000RR; 03-24-2011 at 02:50 PM.
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03-23-2011, 03:10 PM
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1000RR can I get those AF setting for the other gears? I have hooked up the multi gear maps but I am running just one map until I learn more. I figure I can use the resulting AutoTune map as the base map for the multi gear map.
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03-23-2011, 04:17 PM
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Shoot me a PM w/your e-mail address and I'll send you an Excel sheet w/the AFRs. You can just copy/paste them into your multi-gear map.
Yes, starting w/your existing map will be fine for each gear... the A/T will do the rest.
Last edited by 1000RR; 03-24-2011 at 02:51 PM.
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03-23-2011, 04:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000RR
Shoot me a PM w/your e-mail address and I'll send you an Excel sheet w/the AFRs. You can just copy/paste them into your multi-gear map. Assume you're running separate maps for each gear?
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Why don't you share the AFM table?This is the purpose of this topic.
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03-23-2011, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DrIoannis
Why don't you share the AFM table?This is the purpose of this topic.
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Hell, I have nothing against sharing.... guess I didn't realize that was the intent of this thread... You weren't clear in your original post... sounded like you were making a point/recommendation, not a request for folks to post their AFR tables. But since you asked so nicely... they'll be up shortly.
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03-23-2011, 05:04 PM
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03-23-2011, 05:26 PM
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I'm confused, i have never had auto tune before just a PC. i thought the auto tune did everything on its own and kept the AFR where it needed to be? but the i see this and your putting in then numbers just like i did on the dyno with just the PC
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03-23-2011, 05:30 PM
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The AutoTuner when hooked to a PCV enables an AFR table (to be viewable and editable) for your map. The AFR table is pre-populated with values when it comes from DynoJet. You can go in and make changes to those target AFRs as desired and then the AutoTuner/PCV will use those target AFRs to add/subtract fuel while you ride. In the above example, I have enabled the PCV to utilize the speed signal from the bike and activated (via the PCV software) the PCV to have a unique map for each gear instead of the standard way which is one map for any/all gears. Along with that, you also have the ability to modify the AFR table, in my example above, the AFR table is modified for each gear.
Hopefully that makes sense.
Last edited by 1000RR; 03-23-2011 at 05:32 PM.
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03-24-2011, 04:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stang10189
I'm confused, i have never had auto tune before just a PC. i thought the auto tune did everything on its own and kept the AFR where it needed to be? but the i see this and your putting in then numbers just like i did on the dyno with just the PC
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Sort of yes, the A/T is like a real world dyno in that it sets the PCV up while you ride the bike, so you could start with a complete zero map and the A/T will (if you accept the trims) populate you PCV map. The only thing you don't end up with is bragging rights with a dyno chart
You can also set the target A/F ratio to wherever you want (for maybe a little extra mpg in your cruising rpm/gears) just think of it like only ever riding your bike on the dyno with your own dyno operator constantly watching the figures and adjusting them accordingly!!
And for '1000RR':
I see you are also letting the A/T map the 2% column, does it work ok in this area? I found it would not work very well in this area with my previous bike (09R1)
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Last edited by mikef4uk; 03-24-2011 at 05:04 AM.
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