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Old 02-01-2012, 03:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default BMW Accessory: Akrapovic full exhaust

My dealer will sell me a complete Akrapovic exhaust setup as a BMW factory accessory (has BMW PN). To my knowledge it is ordered from BMW and sold through the dealerships.

I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this setup. I'm primarily interested in dumping the weight and heat associated with the stock setup, performance gains are of secondary importance.

Apparently there is an "enabling code" installed by the dealer which modifies the bike's ECU (I guess). Also there are the questions of CATs and whether the warranty remains intact.

This would be an installation on a new "out of the box" unit and I don't want to put my dealer in an awkward position (were friends) vis-a-vis the factory warranty. Originally I wanted Austin Racing's system, but I'm not going to install a PC5 or whatever on a new bike to correctly meter the fuel/air.

Any information would be helpful. This is NOT a unit sold through after market retailers, or Akrapovic itself. I have searched the matter, and my results fail to differenate between BMW accessory and after market acquisition.

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Old 02-01-2012, 07:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Akrapovic designed that exhaust for BMWs HP ECU, however it will work with stock one just fine, and pcv or bazzaz is not required for this particular exhaust as ECU can adjust itself to it just fine. But installing pcv or bazzaz is preffered/recommended.
There are tons of info on this subject on this forum...
Warranty is not going tobe "fully" voided, as I've been told by my dealer, however if something happens to the bike down the line and it will be tied to whatever mod you made BMW may refuse to cover it. BUT it varies from dealer to dealer and also depends on other particulars of the situation.
I think the fact that ur exhaust has bmw part # and will be installed by the dealer will eliminate any issues with warranty.

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It depend on you dealer. BMW exhaust is the same as the One you order from Akrapovic. Dealer charges a huge mark up. My dealer is fine with an aftermarket exhaust and ecu upgrade.


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Thanks to both Sharkatsi12 and Yanquins,

That's just the kind of info I was looking for. I'm friends with my dealer and like Yanquins' dealer I'm sure he would take care of me even if say I installed Austin, etc. But, I don't want to place him in the situation to begin with. That's why I was looking at the BMW system. I agree that having installed a system with a BMW PN and at a BMW dealer will place the dealer on my side if any warranty issues arise, and place BMWNA in a lesser position if we ever go to court (I'm a Lawyer).

Sharkatsi12, the info vis-a-vis the ECU and the exhaust is most helpful, as I don't really want to get into mapping. Further, I called myself searching for this info (some atty, huh) so if you know any threads to which you might direct me I would be grateful, as I'm still in the dark on the CAT situation on this Akrapovic system.

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My dealer said save the stock cat and o2 sensors. I big warranty work comes up? Like blown engine We can put the stock cat back on before calling the BMW rep.


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My dealer said save the stock cat and o2 sensors. I big warranty work comes up? Like blown engine We can put the stock cat back on before calling the BMW rep.


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You realize by putting this up here, your dealer goes at a slight risk (as do you I guess)? BMW NA does peruse this forum on occasion. Likelihood may be low, but I know we all forget sometimes that we put our general location in our profile and then it's not hard to figure out which Dealer it might be...
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You realize by putting this up here, your dealer goes at a slight risk (as do you I guess)? BMW NA does peruse this forum on occasion. Likelihood may be low, but I know we all forget sometimes that we put our general location in our profile and then it's not hard to figure out which Dealer it might be...
for all these years for being part of motorsport communities, I now can offer a rule of thumb: do not screw around with your mechanics; don't skim on things when you are not comfortable to do. Built a good relationship with your dealer

stick with topic: having understanding and dealing with manufacturing process professionally, the exhaust craftsmanship should be the same, nonetheless, there are tricks and tweaks on the bike that most civilian would not understand to do. That will never surface up till you tap into deeper with manufacture.
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Thanks to both Sharkatsi12 and Yanquins,

Shavkatsi12, the info vis-a-vis the ECU and the exhaust is most helpful, as I don't really want to get into mapping. Further, I called myself searching for this info (some atty, huh) so if you know any threads to which you might direct me I would be grateful, as I'm still in the dark on the CAT situation on this Akrapovic system.

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Well, let's start from the end. CAT situation, if you will be getting full exhaust - you will not have CAT (now depends on emissions inspection regulations in your state, you may want to have your inspections done first, before the exhaust installation) if it's a slipon then you have nothing to worry about...

Below there are couple of links regarding Akrapovic (full) exhaust:
1. Interesting discussion:
Full Akrapovic with no power commander according to BMW!

2. Another one - involving rev limiter removal, read it you may find it interesting as well:
Installed Akrapovic shory exhaust @ BMW dealer but now can't remove 9000 rpm limiter!

3. Akrapovic installation process (courtesy of RidersDiscount, nice write up and excellent pictures), starts on page 2, I believe:

Akrapovic BMW S1000RR Full Exhaust Systems

You may find a lot more info on this board, just search...
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You also need to find someone who has actually paid the money to have it done. From what people have posted on the forum, the exhaust is $2800, enabling codes $800, race ecu $800. Someone who had ordered the exhaust said they had to sign a form saying their warranty was null and void before the installation. Maybe someone with firsthand knowledge can confirm this.
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You also need to find someone who has actually paid the money to have it done. From what people have posted on the forum, the exhaust is $2800, enabling codes $800, race ecu $800. Someone who had ordered the exhaust said they had to sign a form saying their warranty was null and void before the installation. Maybe someone with firsthand knowledge can confirm this.
i would never sign it....just sayin...

i do know for dealer in USA selling the Motorsport parts, they would need to acquire a license, dunno how much the license, but, certainly a barrier for dealer to be populating the sales catalog among their customers
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