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Old 12-02-2011, 05:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone using co2 cartridge systems when changing tires?
I´m looking for a compact system to set the bead.

I like these Monster Air Chuck
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think a 20 liter reservoir and some quality 3/8 hose to a tire chuck will work a lot better - I don't think you'll get enough flow from the small orifice in that cartridge. Just my thoughts, I've only used cartridges like that after fixing a flat, the beads are already seated.
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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it says 5 cartridges for a 120/70 to 47psi or 180/55 to get to 35psi. If you are going to attempt this you will need way too many cartridges, tons of lube, and a warm tire that has been sitting in the sun.

I would think you are better off buying the kit that comes with the small compressor. At least you wont have to pay a **** load in cartridges and you can reuse it over and over.

some info on compact model. Let me know if you need one...
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The Co2's are fine for filling a tire after you plug it to get you home or a shop but they don't have the volume to do a good job when changing tires. Do yourself a favor and pick up a compressor. Makes it easy to do tires before every ride.
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I was able to fill up a bicycle tire with a bunch of those cartridges lol...
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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either way dont forget the lube. the job will be much easier... thats what she said
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I´m looking for a compact system to set the bead.
It might work, but is an awfully expensive and troublesome way to set beads after changing tires. And one tire in five will be difficult to get an initial seal or will require a higher pressure than possible with cartridges to get a bead to do the final pop, so it won't work reliably anyway.

If you're going to change tires at home, you need a compressor. If you're worried about field punctures, there is almost never any need set beads - you plug and go, and in this case, you can use CO2 or a small air pump - personally, I prefer a small pump as you occasionally get a circumstance where you have to replug or have a residual slow leak and with CO2 you only get a chance or two to get a good seal and get you to the next town. But CO2 is definitely compact.

If you're changing tires in the field, you're at someplace with compressed air anyway.

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Old 12-03-2011, 02:34 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Well I might get a cheap compressor. Just looking for alternatives.

I´m mainly want to pop the beads. Not fill up. The peak flow from a co2 might not be enough but its better than any mini compressor or manual pump.
I don´t mind using a manual pump or mini compressors to fully inflate after.

The monster air chuck is a 45 gram cartridge specificly for ATV/motorcycle tures. http://www.genuineinnovations.com/im...on%20Chart.jpg
1 cart = 1 tire.

45gr cartridges at 10$ each is cheap enough for me if it works seating the beads on 2-4 tires a year...

If small co2s are not enough it should work with a modified 0-20oz paintball tank CO2 Tank | Paintball CO2 | CO2 Paintball
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Yes, CO2 does a pretty job of the initial inrush of air you need when you want to get the initial seal. You might use it as a backup to a mini-pump. Half the time, you don't need anything special to start the bead seating - it will be more/less airtight right off the bat.

Still think you'll have occasions where you will have problems though. CO2 cartridges are just an incredibly expensive and wasteful source of shop air. Small compressors aren't that expensive.

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Old 12-03-2011, 03:36 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Found jacpac, looks like gr8 stuff JacPac® Regulator Kit Model # J-6901-91

Or homemade CO2 Tank - 1
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