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Old 11-11-2012, 01:12 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Wattsy, nice review. Thanks for that!
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I can't wait
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:49 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks for the review!
Man- now I am more excited than before!

Tues when my dealer gives me the exact I'm hoping its sooner vs a day later!

I had an R6 with Marchesini forged magnesium wheels and 4 pad brembo monoblocs.
That thing was awesome in corners and braked on a dime.

The lower rotational mass may account for some of that faster spun up less torque feel because the motor has to work a lot less to move forward.

I've gotta drive 700 miles to go pick her up.
Already told the boss to expect an unexpected vacation.

I've had over 30 diff sportbikes, but this one has me more excited than my very first!

We've come a long way since my 1984 Honda VF1000r interceptor.

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Congrats Kamran...you are going to love it!!

The first thing you'll notice is how well it has been finished and how good the colour scheme is. No doubt you'll want to get on it the whole time the Sales dude is giving you the pre-ride talk.

The other thing I noticed is that with the engine switched off the suspension does not move at all. Because it's electronic, it all shuts down.

We removed the noise silencer from the pipe so when it started...OMG, it sounded soooo good. When I sat on it, I thought it felt smaller than my
S1RR. It's not smaller, but just felt so.

We rode about 60kms along some straight and twisty roads so I got a pretty good feeling for the bike.

This is a MAGNIFICENT machine!!! Be in no doubt about this. I've owned many of the bikes the S1RR have been compared to and can tell you that this is the best bike I have ever ridden...by at least 25%. I'm willing to bet that every person who rides one of these say the same thing. It's eye wide open good.

The thing that I really noticed when I got my S1RR was how powerful it felt from day one. It just felt like it had lot's of horses driving it. The HP4 feels very different. Don't get me wrong, this thing is fast but it feels like it 'spins' up with far less effort or torque. Just giving it a quick rev before leaving was intereseting because the engine felt less stressed...sorry, I can't describe it any other way. Anyhow, from a power perspecting the bike still had its restrictor so I couldn't go over 8K. DID NOT MATTER because we reached a straight stretch of road and I openened it up to full throttle in 3rd. it span up so quickly that I hit the rev limiter almost immediately with the bloody shift light flickering...damn it!!

Running through the gears was both very pleasant and interesting. Pleasan because the exhaust with the silencer 'pops' when you change gears...I love this sound! :-) Interesting because the bike didn't feel as fast as my S1RR because it didn't feel as 'torquey'. Having said this, in 5th gear I started to feel my head being bufetted around really bady so lowered my head closer to the tank and then saw out of the corner of my eye that we had just passed over 200km/h and it wasn't slowing. HOLY CRAP...keep in mind this is without going over 8k rpm's. This is quick but the motor is a very different power plant to the standard S1RR...it just feels like it climbs with less effort.

Now...probably the most contentous part of this bike is the suspension. All I can say is WOW! I have Ohlins Front, Rear, and Damper as well as a 28mm Triple on my S1RR. I have also had my suspenders tuned by a very credentialed suspension mechanic and I am happy to say the Ohlins is not even close on the open road. I accept that a well tuned Ohlins set up may be better on a track, however as I was told, "To get the best out of static suspension it has to be retuned by a specialist for each track and then for the weather conditions. The DDC does this independantly every time you ride."

I found myself looking for bumps in the road to run over because, while I could feel each bump, I also felt it absorb the impact and smooth it out. I have never felt anything like this...ever. Under heavy breaking normally even a well tuned front end has a little bit of initial dive...NOT the HP4. Also on hard acceleration out of corners, the bike never once 'sat' back, rather stayed in the balanced position. Every corner I entered quickly the bike felt stable and ballanced. In every case as I passed the entry point, I realised I could have entered a lot faster and still be in excellent shape...not to worry, I handed the bike back unbroken, which was the plan. Folks this IS the real thing!

The Brembos are scary good. I almost 'one finger' endowed and hit the ABS when we first started riding. As we rode, I felt that all I had to do is lightly touch the front lever and the bike stopped plenty fast. I suspect all that is needed on a track, even for racing will be to replace the pads with race ones. FYI, braking also seemed effortless...perhaps this is due to the lighter weight of the bike but it stopped really easy. When I get mine the first thing I'm going to do is stick Race Tech anti slip stuff on the tank. Seriously, it stops that hard.

After the ride I giggled like a little girl. Anyone who has bought one of these is going to be absolutely blown away by how good it is.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:33 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I stopped by my BMW dealer yesterday just to say high, well that was a bad idea, she has a hp4 comp still for sale, we crunched some numbers and I have until Tuesday at 9am to decide or it goes to someone else.

I have only had my 2012 motosports for 2 months and I love it but now I am debating on what to do.

Is it worth $10,000 more then my motosports? I find that hard to believe

Reading every review I can find and watching YouTube videos
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I stopped by my BMW dealer yesterday just to say high, well that was a bad idea, she has a hp4 comp still for sale, we crunched some numbers and I have until Tuesday at 9am to decide or it goes to someone else.

I have only had my 2012 motosports for 2 months and I love it but now I am debating on what to do.

Is it worth $10,000 more then my motosports? I find that hard to believe

Reading every review I can find and watching YouTube videos
If you've posted this.....then you are really past the decision point. Dude..........how can you NOT jump on this?


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Old 11-11-2012, 11:25 AM   #15 (permalink)
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BMW in Asheville NC just called to tell me they see my HP4 Comp in their system.
Said I should have it in about 2 weeks.

They are going to call me tues with an exact date.

Needless to say I'm stoked!!
I GOT THE SAME CALL ON SATURDAY!!!! I cannot wait! We tracked my on the BMW system, will be here before the end of November!

Holy balls, I am pumped. If anyone else is looking for one, my dearer has a non-competition model that is not spoken for!

He is only getting 2 & I got the comp model!
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Great write-up - I really hope I get the call soon!
Can't wait for the suspension. We have such a mix of roads round here, it would be impossible to set up normal suspension to work everywhere. Not that I'm expecting a magic bullet, but I still can't wait to see what she feels like!


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Old 11-11-2012, 10:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It's a day after the ride and I'm still buzzing. The only thing I'm not happy about is my bike doesn't arrive in the warehouse till the 27th Dec. This means I won't get it till mid January.

I'm told most of the standard HP4's arrive on the 20th Dec in Australia.

I want mine now! :-(
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:37 PM   #18 (permalink)
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How did u get to ride one?
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:03 AM   #19 (permalink)
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It's a day after the ride and I'm still buzzing. The only thing I'm not happy about is my bike doesn't arrive in the warehouse till the 27th Dec. This means I won't get it till mid January.

I'm told most of the standard HP4's arrive on the 20th Dec in Australia.

I want mine now! :-(
How much do you guys end up spending on this bike down there?
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that is a great review, although you can have the same power by getting the aftermarket full Akrapovic race exhaust and a PCV.

The difference in response - if your S1K was a '10-'11, the throttle mapping is different. Having owned both a '10 and a '12, the '12 has a throttle response that's somewhere in between Sport and Race on the old '10, but there's no midrange power hole. At first I missed the snap of Slick mode, but I now understand BMW's rationale - it really makes the throttle more controllable, and the modes are really just selecting different ABS/DTC settings.

I have both the M4 monoblocs and the RCS19 master cylinder. The stock Nissin unit has a LOT to do with the hair-trigger braking that everyone loves. The M4s also have greater overall braking power than the Goldline calipers. Not a dramatic amount, but noticeable. "Upgrading" to the Brembo RCS19 will take that away - you need more lever travel to get the same level of braking. But this also translates into being able to more finely modulate how much brake you're using and better brake feel.

When I installed my RCS19, I thought something had been done wrong, because there was no longer that one-finger braking with the lightest touch. It wasn't until I found I was bottoming my forks out from braking that I realized that the RCS19 was more progressive yet helped the M4 calipers maximize their braking potential. But you really need to squeeze the lever a fair bit with two fingers.

But I really find useful your comparison of the DDC with a fully prepped Ohlins setup. That is the ONE thing I do envy about the HP4 - a stock suspension that's awesome in every condition, and all you have to do is set sag. No doubt that DDC is the wave of the future!
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