Originally Posted by BMWSyd
Don't worry about Dyno curves etc, anyone who thinks an 1199 ( or any modern Superbike) is underpowered is simply playing with them selves.
Some of you know I've owned both 1199 and the S1000RR and i'm a very new rider. (3 track days under my belt so far)
Without getting too much into it, I have a problem with the above statement.
I'm beginning to learn how important throttle control is on a bike. Unlike with cars, throttle control is paramount to everything to do with riding. Can we all agree on this?
The 1199 has a crappy torque curve from 0-8000rpm. It's very inconsistent and unpredictable. Between 8000-11000 the power is very strong and predictable - agreed!
The problem is, that even in the track, I think you will find multiple corners where you may be forced to be in 2nd gear at 6000 rpm since 1st gear at 10000rpm would require you to short shift mid corner. So between 6-8k rpm you are F^$#%ED!!!! You can't count on predictable power output.
With my short time riding bikes I've ridden the following:
2004 CBR 600RR
2011 Ninja zx-6r
2012 1199 Panigale
All bikes except the 1199 had predictable linear progression of power from 1000rpm to redline. The 1199 below 8000rpm is just garbage! And yes - I had the full termi system with the termi map.
As far as passion and emotions of the Ducati I'd like to point out my personal opinion of "modern art".
Kids nowadays with ZERO talent who take paint and splash it against a wall and call it "modern art" are idiots. They lack talent and hide behind the term "modern art".
Same with Ducati. Passion and Emotion was not part of the design, but a side effect of bad design and bad engineering!!!!
When you own a Ferrari one day and it breaks down all the time you may rationalize to yourself that a "Ferrari has it's own personality and bad temper" and how it's like a human and it has emotions and some days it's happy, and some days it's not.
IT'S A F$*#@$ING MACHINE!!! machines are suppose to work the SAME every time with consistency and predictability. Anything else is not PASSION - just BAD ENGINEERING!